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Re: .mail app

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Apple Mail has it. I think you can tell it whether you want to see newest-first or the reverse, as well.

Actually, Mail.app's lack of conversation view was one of its definitive dealbreakers for me. In particular, it doesn't include you or your sent mail in the conversation ( http://i.imgur.com/Atkcu.png ). It only lets you expand the email quotation to let you dig through nested context ( http://i.imgur.com/1Zj2e.png ). Compare this to gmail ( http://i.imgur.com/mLel3.png ) that actually handles it as a conversation. I…

Actually, Mail.app can include your own mail in a conversation, but only if you ask it to: select View->Show Related Messages.

Re: .mail app

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I've just installed OS X Mountain Lion... and gone back to Apple's Mail (no more Sparrow). I'm too tired of chasing another email/to-do client that might get acq-hired, with no future support. Having said that, the idea behind .mail app is elegant, well thought and a step forward. Kudos.

What do you mean no more Sparrow?

Last time I checked, it's still available for download. My understanding was that it just isn't in active development anymore.

I use it as my primary mail client on my personal machine, and it does pretty much everything I'd want as is.

Re: .mail app

#73

Best of luck w/ the implementation. However, reading the concept, I am unimpressed. In Mail.app, I can already mark e-mails with different-colored flags, which allows me to come up with my own "get back soon" or "get back later" type of a system. The assertion that e-mail hasn't changed since 1970's is false. Modern e-mail clients manage it much better. Compare Mail.app, Outlook and GMail to PINE--the difference is s…

Just off the top of my head you know what I would like to see as an email interface: Reddit. Each headline being the suvject being an email with all the comments being the replies. Different users can reply in a threaded way to all the recipients of the message etc. Obviously it would need in-line attachements and in-line pictures. It would be interesting to allow a vote system on messages. Rather than file them, you…

> Each headline being the suvject being an email with all the comments being the replies.

As in Gmail?

Re: .mail app

#74
Looks interesting, there's definitely stuff that can be done to make email better. It'll be interesting to see how this works out.

If you're interested in this and you're a GMail user you might also be interested in Active Inbox[1] which adds some useful features on top of Gmail. It lets you mark emails GTD style as "Action" (requires an action), "Waiting" (waiting on someone else) or "SomeDay" (there's an action to take, but you might not do it now). It also has an easy way to sort emails by project and some other useful features.

Disclaimer: I met Andy of Active Inbox recently and ended up doing a few days work on the product. But I was a happy (and paying) user of Active Inbox before that!

[1]: https://www.activeinboxhq.com/

Re: .mail app

#75
Perfect timing on this, right after the demise of sparrow. I was starting to really get down on the idea of having no really nice desktop mail client for OSX.

Really looking forward to checking out this app, and I really hope Tobias is either secretly an incredible osx programmer or is going to get one on board to help, because it would be a shame to see a beautifully designed interface like this be brought down by poor implementation.

Re: .mail app

#76
Just a heads up, if the creator is reading here, your page loads 0 content with javascript blocked. A minimal plea for javascript unblocking might gain you extra traffic - I know I didn't care enough to add you to my whitelist, since I had NOTHING to go on.

Re: .mail app

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> The true innovator in the e-mail space has been GMail, which has brought things like autosave, Small nit, Outlook 2003 had AutoSave. GMail was publicly introduced in 2004. > embracing the fact that it is not truly productive to file every single e-mail into a purposeful folder That's the "Inbox" > embracing that tagging is better than folders. I'm pretty sure that Outlook has had categories (the color-coded custom…

Someone loves Outlook

I really like Outlook. I switched to Gmail this year because I wanted free e-mail and Gmail is easier to configure. But, as a client, I enjoyed Outlook much more than I do Gmail.

Re: .mail app

#78
post #73

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Just off the top of my head you know what I would like to see as an email interface: Reddit. Each headline being the suvject being an email with all the comments being the replies. Different users can reply in a threaded way to all the recipients of the message etc. Obviously it would need in-line attachements and in-line pictures. It would be interesting to allow a vote system on messages. Rather than file them, you…

> Each headline being the suvject being an email with all the comments being the replies. As in Gmail?

But when you open a message with lots of replies, there's no structure, and you can't reply to one person's comment (like I'm replying to your comment here). This would be messy in gmail.

Re: .mail app

#79
post #60

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Actually, Mail.app's lack of conversation view was one of its definitive dealbreakers for me. In particular, it doesn't include you or your sent mail in the conversation ( http://i.imgur.com/Atkcu.png ). It only lets you expand the email quotation to let you dig through nested context ( http://i.imgur.com/1Zj2e.png ). Compare this to gmail ( http://i.imgur.com/mLel3.png ) that actually handles it as a conversation. I…

I too was frustrated by Mail.app's lack of a proper conversation view. Turns out, there's a setting to show messages you sent. In the "Viewing" section of Mail.app's preferences, enable "Include related messages". http://imgur.com/i5Eaq

This seemingly minor preference is what makes Mail.app useable.

Re: .mail app

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post #73

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> Each headline being the suvject being an email with all the comments being the replies. As in Gmail?

But when you open a message with lots of replies, there's no structure, and you can't reply to one person's comment (like I'm replying to your comment here). This would be messy in gmail.

  > you can't reply to one person's comment
You can, but it doesn't maintain proper threading. It just groups them all together and sorts by date.
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