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Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by lynndotpy »

Waterluvian wrote: post #66
llamaimperative wrote: post #4

This is the type of thing that'd normally show up on CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report which has been published weekly since 1960 (my understanding is this is without fail). But unfortunately the current administration has decided an ideological purification is more important than keeping the American public apprised of threats to their health. So it wasn't published last week, and probably won't be this we…

I wonder if we’d do better in discourse to stop pointing at an “administration.” It is a reflection of what a plurality, often majority, of people want.

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Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by ceejayoz »

liontwist wrote: post #68
llamaimperative wrote: post #4

This is the type of thing that'd normally show up on CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report which has been published weekly since 1960 (my understanding is this is without fail). But unfortunately the current administration has decided an ideological purification is more important than keeping the American public apprised of threats to their health. So it wasn't published last week, and probably won't be this we…

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https://healthjournalism.org/blog/2023/07/medical-errors-are...

> In a critical commentary, the co-editors-in-chief of the journal BMJ Quality & Safety wrote that the paper’s “headline-friendly” mortality rate — which was 10 times the rate suggested by prior studies — was so implausible that it risked undermining confidence in the entire field of patient safety research.

> Yet the notion that medical errors are the third leading cause of death persists. It’s trumpeted by patient safety advocates and trial attorneys, and became a line on a TV show. News stories continue to cite it.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by behringer »

Waterluvian wrote: post #66
llamaimperative wrote: post #4

This is the type of thing that'd normally show up on CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report which has been published weekly since 1960 (my understanding is this is without fail). But unfortunately the current administration has decided an ideological purification is more important than keeping the American public apprised of threats to their health. So it wasn't published last week, and probably won't be this we…

I wonder if we’d do better in discourse to stop pointing at an “administration.” It is a reflection of what a plurality, often majority, of people want.

The majority of people don't want this. 36 percent of americans didn't vote.

That doesn't mean they don't want services, that means that in addition to 74 million that voted against trump, 90 million more also didn't want him.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by liontwist »

ceejayoz wrote: post #72
liontwist wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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https://healthjournalism.org/blog/2023/07/medical-errors-are... > In a critical commentary, the co-editors-in-chief of the journal BMJ Quality & Safety wrote that the paper’s “headline-friendly” mortality rate — which was 10 times the rate suggested by prior studies — was so implausible that it risked undermining confidence in the entire field of patient safety research. > Yet the notion that medical errors are the t…

So why doesn’t the CDC track it so we know the actual numbers? That would be good information to know.

Also the academic article here is simply a response to another academic article supporting the 3rd leading cause of death:

https://scholar.google.com/scholar_lookup?author=MA+Makary&a...

Which academic has it right? The study you shared is critical of the sources used in the first, but also provides no new data sources. It’s simply skeptical about the rates.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by redler »

laidoffamazon wrote: post #15
llamaimperative wrote: post #4

This is the type of thing that'd normally show up on CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report which has been published weekly since 1960 (my understanding is this is without fail). But unfortunately the current administration has decided an ideological purification is more important than keeping the American public apprised of threats to their health. So it wasn't published last week, and probably won't be this we…

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…of the 63% who bothered themselves to vote.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by cozzyd »

hammock wrote: post #64
ysofunny wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

but only because dead people don't buy eggs so it's expected lowered demand will "stabilize" prices. the numbers are what's important, people. (sorry (not sorry) for the angry sarcasm)

Has anyone died from the Kansas outbreak? Are you scaremongering? I checked the TB mortality in the US and it was 2 per 1,000,000 cases

Now, now, sick people have smaller appetites and don't eat as many eggs.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by ceejayoz »

liontwist wrote: post #74
ceejayoz wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://healthjournalism.org/blog/2023/07/medical-errors-are... > In a critical commentary, the co-editors-in-chief of the journal BMJ Quality & Safety wrote that the paper’s “headline-friendly” mortality rate — which was 10 times the rate suggested by prior studies — was so implausible that it risked undermining confidence in the entire field of patient safety research. > Yet the notion that medical errors are the t…

So why doesn’t the CDC track it so we know the actual numbers? That would be good information to know. Also the academic article here is simply a response to another academic article supporting the 3rd leading cause of death: https://scholar.google.com/scholar_lookup?author=MA+Makary&a... Which academic has it right? The study you shared is critical of the sources used in the first, but also provides no new data sour…

Malpractice law is complex and time consuming. Determining it to be a cause or contributor to a death isn't quite like going "yup, that's pneumonia". Studies are what we use to estimate it, and this one was a big outlier.

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Post by vkou »

roenxi wrote: post #61
llamaimperative wrote: post #4

This is the type of thing that'd normally show up on CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report which has been published weekly since 1960 (my understanding is this is without fail). But unfortunately the current administration has decided an ideological purification is more important than keeping the American public apprised of threats to their health. So it wasn't published last week, and probably won't be this we…

> "Politics don't matter" though ;) Bummer! 1. Is there an argument here that the CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report's unbroken publication record is so important it should switch votes? 2. They probably still filled the report in, so there is a chance it eventually gets published. No need to abandon hope yet.

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Post by kibwen »

hammock wrote: post #31
mjevans wrote: post #19

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"None of the Above" (see Bruster's Millions (Movie)) really needs to be an option...

It is. It’s called a protest vote, and it’s done by casting a blank ballot

I'm not sure who told you that casting a blank ballot represents a "protest vote", but I assure you that is not how our current voting system is set up.

To be clear, voting systems should have explicit options for protest votes; an explicit "I reject all candidates" option. Unfortunately, ours does not, by design; a blank ballot instead means "I endorse all candidates". Pretending otherwise will not change this.

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