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Mark Zuckerberg: This Man Is a Coward

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg: This Man Is a Coward

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Seems kind of a bit much. I don't know what mark's true beliefs are. For all i know maybe his actions are ernest. I feel we need more than this to subscribe him a coward. Someone doing something you disagree with, or even being straight up evil, is not the same thing as being a coward.

He did the exact opposite when it was trendy to do the opposite. Did his beliefs change so conveniently?

I don't have a horse in this race, but to be fair, Mark goes into great detail about all this on the Joe Rogan podcast [0]. I think a reasonable person would also listen to what he says about his own motivations. If you have already listened and have an opinion, then please ignore this suggestion!

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k1ehaE0bdU

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: This Man Is a Coward

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post #68

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Check out the hackernews sub on rdrama.net

I did check it out just now. Login required. During signup, one must check a box stating "I swear lifelong allegiance to the state of Israel"??

You should make an account, you can use a temp address. And that's a joke, to keep out people that take things too seriously.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: This Man Is a Coward

#73
post #22

Seems kind of a bit much. I don't know what mark's true beliefs are. For all i know maybe his actions are ernest. I feel we need more than this to subscribe him a coward. Someone doing something you disagree with, or even being straight up evil, is not the same thing as being a coward.

He did the exact opposite when it was trendy to do the opposite. Did his beliefs change so conveniently?

I think this is the mistake being made - he has no beliefs. He’s purely and completely a sociopath. Nothing matters but money and whatever power he has at Facebook.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: This Man Is a Coward

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post #68

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Check out the hackernews sub on rdrama.net

I did check it out just now. Login required. During signup, one must check a box stating "I swear lifelong allegiance to the state of Israel"??

An edgy forum like kiwifarms, apparently. The Red Scare podcast has an instance of the same software and has this checkbox text instead: "By checking this box you agree that you are not, have never been, and will never be fat, physically or spiritually."

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: This Man Is a Coward

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How do you think "the rich controlling our government" would look? I can think of two possibilities: either someone rich and corrupt being elected and using the office to their own advantage and that of other rich people, or the rich influencing the government to enact the policies they want despite the people in control not also being rich. I'm not sure about you, but watching "worlds richest people line up to kiss…

You're assuming that those non-wealthy people have objectively studied both candidates, weighed their platforms, and chosen the one they have determined will make their lives better. As opposed to, say, the one who promises to hurt they people they want to see hurt, or the one who claims they will protect them from whatever out-group they consider dangerous.

How am I assuming that? If those non-wealthy people haven't objectively studied both candidates, how does that make it less likely that the wealthy are able to exert outsized influence on government policy (either by directly taking part or lobbying)? Trying to distract people by redirecting their unhappiness towards convenient targets that are unrelated to wealth is pretty much exactly what I'd expect from someone wanting to enact a pro-wealthy agenda that doesn't actually help the average voter at all.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: This Man Is a Coward

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Also relevant: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jan/16/i-knew... . It's incredible, really. I thought the main point of being a billionaire was independence. "Fuck-you money" taken to the extreme. You've "won" society, now do whatever you want. Make things better for humanity by funding novel research. Or sit in a cave and build the best orgasm machine ever. Whatever. I think Larry and Sergey have the r…

It's really showing his deep lack of character; Aaron Sorkin got him dead on. He's always done the most convenient, values-free act possible from the get-go.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: This Man Is a Coward

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post #68

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I did check it out just now. Login required. During signup, one must check a box stating "I swear lifelong allegiance to the state of Israel"??

An edgy forum like kiwifarms, apparently. The Red Scare podcast has an instance of the same software and has this checkbox text instead: "By checking this box you agree that you are not, have never been, and will never be fat, physically or spiritually."

We are decidedly not like kiwifarms. rdrama is about having fun, not being mad on the internet.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: This Man Is a Coward

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"Beliefs"? Classic binary "if you're not with us, you're against us" thinking. Believe it or not, a lot of people didn't really give a hoot about either side of the culture wars squabbling and just went with the flow.

> just went with the flow Be better. Go against the flow.

The public went against the flow at the voting booths in 2024: "Big voter turnout this year benefited Republicans, contradicting conventional political wisdom" (https://apnews.com/article/election-2024-voter-turnout-repub...). Didn't work out too well, did it?

Sometimes it's smarter to let sleeping dogs lie.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: This Man Is a Coward

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He did the exact opposite when it was trendy to do the opposite. Did his beliefs change so conveniently?

Maybe when it was trendy he heard some convincing arguments one way, and now that trends shifted, he was convinced to go to the other side. Maybe he doesn't give a shit at all and is going with the flow. None of this particulary feels like cowardice. Honestly, y'all should stop caring what mark thinks and start caring about the average american. Trump isn't scary because a couple of billionaires are on his side. He's…

Trump got a plurality of the vote, not a majority.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: This Man Is a Coward

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Trump and his sleazy tech bros will go down in history as the gravediggers of democracy.

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Democrats are not against voter ID if voter ID is free and easy to obtain for every person who is legally entitled to vote. And by "free" I don't mean that there is just no fee charged by the agency that issues the ID. I mean that it also shouldn't require documentation that cannot be obtained for free.

There are plenty of links in this comment [1] with details on how many Americans who are legally entitled to vote lack ID and why it is difficult for many to obtain it.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42116609

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