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Astronomers delete asteroid because it turned out to be Tesla Roadster

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Re: Astronomers delete asteroid because it turned out to be Tesla Roadster

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Honestly "astronomers" have really started to annoy me, which surprises me because I love space and astronomy and star-gazing and such. I have bought multiple personal telescopes over the years, so I guess I even qualify as an amateur astronomer. But lately it seems I disagree with astronomers on any intersection of astronomy and politics. I put "astronomers" in quotes because of course I realize that "not all astron…

it’s cheaper and more permanent to just lay fibre and copper to provide internet. we don’t need 3000 satellites launched every few years to do so. i think you’re overinflating elon’s importance. (not that he designs and builds starlink, anyway)

Permanent yes. But cheaper?

A lot of the places served (as in actual customers) by starlink are in truly remote and difficult to reach places.

I know someone who uses it in the middle of private land surrounded by national forest, 5+ miles from the nearest paved road.

It doesn’t get electricity, and the last quote he was able to get was for $250k+ to attempt to run power from the local utility. But now with Solar….

And he’s not the only one in that region.

Using starlink for dense urban environments? Yeah that makes no sense. It also possibly doesn’t make any sense in suburban environments either.

But dispersed or remote areas? Pretty awesome.

LTE is sometimes a competitor in those situations, but there are a lot of people in those environments that don’t have good line of sight to a cell, but do get plenty of open sky, and Starlink is far superior for them than any other solution.

LTE over these remote areas is also a major capex, and involves a lot of environmental impact.

Hughes/Geo satellite sucks in both latency and bandwidth.

Most LTE data plans are also expensive for this type of thing, as any RV’er will tell you.

In many ways, this solves the ‘everyone must live in the big city to make good money’ problem, if coupled with remote work.

Re: Astronomers delete asteroid because it turned out to be Tesla Roadster

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Neither of your suggestions are accurate. The headline is accurate.

Given overwhelming recent experience, I highly doubt it. I think I didn’t have gray hair the last time a title was more accurate than the story.

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Re: Astronomers delete asteroid because it turned out to be Tesla Roadster

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There is almost nothing in the article that is "rocket man bad." The article is "lack of global coordination about man made objects in deep space bad." Which seems kinda like a reasonable and slightly boring complaint except that it's funny in this case because it was a drifting car.

There are signs > At the time, it received a great deal of notoriety No, it had received a lot of excitement and enthusiasm, or at best people said it was a gimmick / stunt. Where is the "notoriety" coming from?

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Re: Astronomers delete asteroid because it turned out to be Tesla Roadster

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isn't this a good thing? it sets an exciting lower bound on the effectiveness of citizen science detection efforts, and a confirmation that the techniques are sound

I would think that the albedo of the tesla is much higher than the typical asteroid, making it much easier to track.

Re: Astronomers delete asteroid because it turned out to be Tesla Roadster

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I'm not sure I buy into the sensationalism behind this story. We're tracking billions[0] of asteroids in interplanetary space, and you say that it's a data-processing hazard that the half-dozen or so deep-space anthropogenic objects aren't submitted to a mandatory international database for de-confliction? That doesn't pass the smell test. [0] https://www.technologyreview.com/2025/01/01/1108643/vera-c-r...

There are only a little over a million known asteroids. The link you provided is saying that the Vera Rubin Observatory is expected to find billions of galaxies, and says nothing about how many asteroids it is expected to find.

https://catalina.lpl.arizona.edu/faq/how-many-asteroids-are-...

Re: Astronomers delete asteroid because it turned out to be Tesla Roadster

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It is being tracked under the correct designation “2018-017A”, therefore they are deleting an erroneous report that was temporarily assigned the designation that was deleted. What makes you think they “stopped tracking” it?

The headline says "delete" not "correct" or "replace". Blame clickbait.

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Re: Astronomers delete asteroid because it turned out to be Tesla Roadster

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly "astronomers" have really started to annoy me, which surprises me because I love space and astronomy and star-gazing and such. I have bought multiple personal telescopes over the years, so I guess I even qualify as an amateur astronomer. But lately it seems I disagree with astronomers on any intersection of astronomy and politics. I put "astronomers" in quotes because of course I realize that "not all astron…

it’s cheaper and more permanent to just lay fibre and copper to provide internet. we don’t need 3000 satellites launched every few years to do so. i think you’re overinflating elon’s importance. (not that he designs and builds starlink, anyway)

Where did I mention Elon Musk?
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