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Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by scarface_74 »

sirsinsalot wrote: post #63
ADeerAppeared wrote: post #35

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> because say the CEO of a company is friendly to the President. "Engaging in political censorship of their platform in favour of the President" is a little more than being "friendly". Free Speech in the US is dying. Ignore it at your own peril.

Dying? It isn't free speech if you can say what you like, but can only do it in a sound proofed room, alone.

He’s talking about private groups.

Regardless, no private platform is forced to provide you a voice. You can set up your own site and set up your own servers if need be. People have been getting their ideas out there before social media and even when the mainstream media wouldn’t cover them.

That’s how the civil rights movement came to prominence.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by scarface_74 »

sebstefan wrote: post #21
ecshafer wrote: post #14

> I live in a more rural community (moved from a big city). We have 5-6 small (~50k people) towns, all well connected. Everything happens on Facebook. I would like to move to a different platforms. Plus points for self-hosted, federated. Do YOU want to move off of Facebook for some reason, or do people want to move off of Facebook for some reason. MOST people in the US, especially in a rural are are not going to quit…

Most people in the US have already quit that app, the battle's not that uphill. You're starting half up

This doesn’t jibe with publicly available statistics..

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by bee_rider »

jf22 wrote: post #40
coldpie wrote: post #38

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You're correct, but this is quite a boring response. If no one tried to make the world a better place, the world would never get better. It is an uphill battle, but I wish the OP luck all the same.

If you can't communicate with anyone you can't make the world a better place.

We could communicate more effectively 20 or so years ago. Communication technology had already matured, but we didn’t have these engagement-driven social media platforms. The goal of these platforms isn’t to communicate, it is to sell ads and pick engaging posts to re-broadcast.

What gets people engaged is stupid anger. Even stuff I agree with on some fundamental political level, the social media version is just stressed out, to the point of being ineffective and often wrong in detail.

Centralized as driven social media can’t go out of business fast enough.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by scarface_74 »

rgbrgb wrote: post #56
bdangubic wrote: post #44

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yup, quitting in droves ... https://www.statista.com/statistics/223289/facebooks-quarter...

That shows quarterly revenue not user activity in the US? In my orbit there is nearly 0 Facebook usage outside of a few boomers but instagram seems very popular.

So you’re going to ignore publicly available information based on your anecdote?

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by scarface_74 »

Stronico wrote: post #55

I run a discussion group that meets once a month - our tech stack is 1. A blog running WordPress that I use to announce meetings 2. A meetup.com account (free tier) that has the same information as the blog 3. A MailChimp account (free tier) where I send notices about the meetups 4. A very active Slack group (free tier) where I announce meetups and we have entended discussions. Discord would probably work just as wel…

You don’t see how much more work that is?

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by YeahThisIsMe »

nyokodo wrote: post #66
ADeerAppeared wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> because say the CEO of a company is friendly to the President. "Engaging in political censorship of their platform in favour of the President" is a little more than being "friendly". Free Speech in the US is dying. Ignore it at your own peril.

[flagged]

Is this a joke comment?

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by weberer »

>I want to move our local communities

What does that mean? I think we need a lot more context on what you want to do. Are you the IT administrator for the county and want to find alternative ways of disseminating announcements? Or are you just a citizen that wants people to chat somewhere else?

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by scarface_74 »

throwawayffb wrote: post #37
treme wrote: post #26

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Maybe he wants to inconvenience everyone else because he's sickened by Zuckerberg's opportunism and willingness to kiss the ring of the most corrupt person to ever occupy the Oval Office. Just a wild guess.

It’s rural America. Do you really think they are anti-Trump?

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by dingnuts »

javier123454321 wrote: post #64
ADeerAppeared wrote: post #35

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> because say the CEO of a company is friendly to the President. "Engaging in political censorship of their platform in favour of the President" is a little more than being "friendly". Free Speech in the US is dying. Ignore it at your own peril.

Are you talking about his role censoring for the current, or for the former admin? His flip flopping shows such a lack of character. However, being selectively outraged because this time he is doing it for someone you disagree with, which a lot of people are, reveals the real motives.

ok so where do those who have been consistently mad at the people variously in power going back to 2016 or even 2008 go to complain? non-partisan free speech believers exist

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by nyokodo »

scarface_74 wrote: post #69
nyokodo wrote: post #66

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Musk has been promoting his views and demoting post that he doesn’t agree with.

Well, Musk hypocrisy aside and assuming the scale of this intervention is the same on X as pre-acquisition and assuming it’s as egregious and petty as then, he won’t have the infrastructure to force his views across all social networks like the Biden administration did.
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