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Escape the walled garden and algorithm black boxes with RSS feeds

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Re: Escape the walled garden and algorithm black boxes with RSS feeds

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I need to find some way to see a chronological feed of what people I am friends with on facebook post. I literally get randomly suggested posts from unrelated accounts, and scrolling through them all will start to repeat them, never showing me content from some people who are actual friend connections.

Try this: https://www.facebook.com/?filter=friends&sk=h_chr

Thanks!

Re: Escape the walled garden and algorithm black boxes with RSS feeds

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post #64

I need to find some way to see a chronological feed of what people I am friends with on facebook post. I literally get randomly suggested posts from unrelated accounts, and scrolling through them all will start to repeat them, never showing me content from some people who are actual friend connections.

You need this: https://socialfixer.com/

At socialfixer, options, hide post put everything that should disappear follow reals etc..

I am not on my laptop otherwise I would post my block list here.

Re: Escape the walled garden and algorithm black boxes with RSS feeds

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I think it's little appreciated that planets solve many of the practical problems of feed crawling. If you wanted to follow 2000 blogs yourself you'd find it is really a hassle. You can follow one planet and its easy. For that matter, if 2000 people want to follow your blog (and many other blogs) they are going to generate 2000 requests per polling period. It is not wonder why people like [1] get so exasperated. Ther…

And her RSS feed doesn’t work at all

Why do you say that?

Re: Escape the walled garden and algorithm black boxes with RSS feeds

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post #13
post #5

Def how I consume HN. It’s even nice to see flagged and dead which I wouldn’t see easily if I came via the HN homepage.

How do you get this, may I ask? I asked because I didn't know how to get exactly that, so I'm building a site that finds RSS feeds from sites on the front page of HN. Then, at the end of the day it emails me with a summary if I miss one. https://RSS.surf If anyone wants to try the daily summary email would love feedback.

I use Feedly, which as a RSS reader is ok but probably one of the better ones available on iOS/iPadOS platform. I loved Google Reader back in the day, but Google loves to kill every product of theirs that I actually like and used.

I believe the HN feed is available here: https://news.ycombinator.com/rss

Re: Escape the walled garden and algorithm black boxes with RSS feeds

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I love this!

I'm trying to build a new corner of the old web with my social link sharing site https://lynkmi.com, and every tag automatically has an RSS feed so you don't need to know anything about them to set one up, or even need an account to follow one.

The main idea is instead of following everything a person posts you can just follow a subset of their interests. So if I post about Irish Dairy Innovations [0] and also about Advice [1] you can follow whichever combination of those you like.

If you'd like to sign up, my email is in my bio. And if you don't want to sign up, my email is still in my bio.

[0] https://lynkmi.com/oisin/Irish%2520dairy%2520innovation [1] https://lynkmi.com/oisin/advice

Re: Escape the walled garden and algorithm black boxes with RSS feeds

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The problem with time based feeds is this. You can read x articles a day; your system ingests y articles a day. x=y is perfect but requires close-to-perfect balance (if x=0.9y to 1.1y maybe you can adjust your reading habit to your your feed) if x>y then your system isn't showing you enough, if y With an algorithmic feed of some kind you choose to read x items a day, your system shows you the best x items a day out o…

> if x>y then your system isn't showing you enough We've grown used to having a practically infinite amount of things presented to us all the time, but I've come to believe recently that limiting the amount of posts you see can be a fine (and maybe healthier) choice. There's value in being able to say "I'm caught up, I'm done", it can be a natural stopping point. I'm not as good about limiting myself like this as I w…

The total amount of content available is y>x.

Some arbitrary process has to reduce the 1,000,000,000 pieces of content produced today to maybe 10 or 100 you can handle.

The very concept of "news" ("fake news" is bad because it is news not because it is fake) is an act of violence against the fabric of reality because a huge number of things happened today, but CNN reported the same 10 of them 100 times. They could maybe cover 1000 different news stories (still a fraction of maybe 100,000 things that happened) but that's a non-starter because someone who watched the network at 3pm would have a totally different impression than someone who watched it at 5pm.

Re: Escape the walled garden and algorithm black boxes with RSS feeds

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The hate for algorithms boggles my mind. Chronological feeds are awful. You'll never see anything from the people who post occasionally because they get drowned out by the people who are posting all the time. There may be some algorithms that deliberately magnify hate because that's a way to increase engagement, but if you want to create one of those algorithms you can make a training set based on chronological feed…

Let it go Paul. It's like the word "hacker". We ain't getting it back. It's sad the popular perception of a fundamental computer science concept, the great progeny of Al-Khwarizmi Musa, the life work of heroes like Donald Knuth, is sullied and stained with dire B-movie comic-book Bond villainy. Thank the hooligan broligarchs and their manchild ambitions for trashing that bit of computing culture. Even my mum spits in…

It might be easier to convince the people at the CS department to name the "algorithms" class something else.

Re: Escape the walled garden and algorithm black boxes with RSS feeds

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I'm sorry to be the pessimist here, but I doubt it. HN users are the most likely to use RSS in the first place. I sincerely doubt that RSS is going to make a comeback this year with all my non-IT friends using it.

Realism shared. I work with journalists, exactly the type of normies who would most benefit from this technology. Years of evangelism has had no effect whatsoever. Nobody they know is using it, they don't see the logo anywhere, or a big friendly "Get started" button. It's all so unfamiliar and technical-sounding. Even the name itself was a disaster, IMO: a hopelessly geeky and opaque acronym. It should have been call…

Journalists used to use RSS quite a bit maybe 20 years ago. I guess they just forgot.
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