Live data from Hacker News

No Billionares at FOSDEM

drewdevault.com

71–80 of 213 posts

Re: No Billionares at FOSDEM

#71
post #3

[flagged]

He isn't boycotting. He is planning to peacefully protest, which I think is reasonable.

Disrupting a talk isn't really "peaceful". You're physically obstructing the talk and daring the conference organizers who rented the room and other participants who want to hear the talk to use force to remove you.

Re: No Billionares at FOSDEM

#72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, I'm not saying Musk is the only person who has interesting things to say about it. You're absolutely correct about these other people and I listen to them too. But you're not giving Musk enough credit. All engineers and other professionals told him that landing rockets is bullshit, and what is interesting here is that he went and made it happen anyways. I'm not talking just about the engineering, everything is…

> All engineers and other professionals told him that landing rockets is bullshit Every company has some kind of mythology where someone says "you'll never make it in this town!". The reality is that uncrewed propulsive landing was technologically feasible since the soviets landed a rover on the moon. NASA propulsively landed a rover on Mars back in 2011. Like I said, listening to billionaires is probably interesting…

Sorry but no, this is absolutely not what happened. I am watching it closely ever since SpaceX was founded in 2002. There is an incredible gap between the tech demo you're speaking about, and actually landing a heavy orbital rocket, and then doing it 100 times in a row without a hiccup.

Mars is completely off topic, as they didn't land the booster there. We had Space Shuttle before and it didn't say much about landing rocket boosters.

Re: No Billionares at FOSDEM

#73

By all means let them sponsor open source events, we’ll just take the benefits. If that means listening to their latest swindle then so be it, small price to pay. Isn’t this what the phrase “useful idiots” was invented for?

If you think that's bad, wait until you hear about how many unpaid volunteers are running FOSDEM as a "free and non-commercial event"

I hope those volunteers decline to volunteer their time to setup and run jacks presentation then

Re: No Billionares at FOSDEM

#74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> All engineers and other professionals told him that landing rockets is bullshit Every company has some kind of mythology where someone says "you'll never make it in this town!". The reality is that uncrewed propulsive landing was technologically feasible since the soviets landed a rover on the moon. NASA propulsively landed a rover on Mars back in 2011. Like I said, listening to billionaires is probably interesting…

Sorry but no, this is absolutely not what happened. I am watching it closely ever since SpaceX was founded in 2002. There is an incredible gap between the tech demo you're speaking about, and actually landing a heavy orbital rocket, and then doing it 100 times in a row without a hiccup. Mars is completely off topic, as they didn't land the booster there. We had Space Shuttle before and it didn't say much about landin…

I think it is? Like, this sounds like a pretty silly claim:

> All engineers and other professionals told him that landing rockets is bullshit

Where did you hear that?

Re: No Billionares at FOSDEM

#75
post #5
post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He isn't boycotting. He is planning to peacefully protest, which I think is reasonable.

Why is it reasonable to interrupt everyone else's freedom to hear someone talk?

He's not "violating" someone's freedom to listen to a talk, but rather he hates the guy and wants him gone. At least he's doing something about it

Re: No Billionares at FOSDEM

#76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What other person started a rocket company from scratch and got them landing? I'd rather listen to Lars Blackmore (the engineer who is largely responsible for SpaceX powered descent). Or Gwynne Shotwell who actually oversees the business day-to-day. I'm really not interested in what the money guy has to say, especially since he is primarily interested in cultivating his public image-- how can you trust anything he…

He doesn’t do that. People who don’t like him claim that he does without any basis to it, and you’re perpetuating this hyperbole by claiming it as fact when the very thing you linked doesn’t even go that far. Musk sucks, attack him for valid reasons like racism instead of some made up bullshit about cheating at video games.

He literally does do that. Top-level players of the game have called him out for it. They have tracked his time with an API. It is actually mathematically impossible to be at his level in POE-- you would have to be a top-tier player and play nonstop for 20+ hrs a day.

People who like Musk aren't going to care that he is racist, they will argue about what actually constitutes as racism (erm pushes up glasses --actually have u read the bell curve???).

Having definitive proof of him paying others to play videogames for him is an example of how he just lies about everything. If he lies about videogames what else does he lie about?

Re: No Billionares at FOSDEM

#77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I care less about his "troll" posts online (implying there is a conspiracy of jews importing people to destroy America is just a troll and not an actual Nazi conspiracy guys) than his manipulation of the US government, mistreatment of workers, and maybe the most egregious of all, being a fake nerd and pretending to like Evangelion.

Are you as militant about dunking on the million other people who also manipulate the government and mistreat workers to an even greater extent?

Yes.

Re: No Billionares at FOSDEM

#78

> Dorsey is presumably being platformed in Janson because his blockchain bullshit company is a main sponsor of FOSDEM this year. This part just isn’t true. Does the author think that Block is a blockchain company?

It definitely is in terms of product offerings, though it’s not their main money maker

Re: No Billionares at FOSDEM

#79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe, maybe not. Importantly, the parent didn't call him "crazy", they simply pointed out that he is hostile to workers. It's sad that people can see a good thing and think it cancels out all bad things.

I called him crazy myself (and I do think it's true), to illustrate that I am aware of his antics and it's not a reason to stop listening.

Right, but you replied to the parent, not yourself, and the parent didn't call him "crazy", they simply pointed out that he is hostile to workers (he is).

It's sad that people can see a good thing and think it cancels out all bad things

Re: No Billionares at FOSDEM

#80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry but no, this is absolutely not what happened. I am watching it closely ever since SpaceX was founded in 2002. There is an incredible gap between the tech demo you're speaking about, and actually landing a heavy orbital rocket, and then doing it 100 times in a row without a hiccup. Mars is completely off topic, as they didn't land the booster there. We had Space Shuttle before and it didn't say much about landin…

I think it is? Like, this sounds like a pretty silly claim: > All engineers and other professionals told him that landing rockets is bullshit Where did you hear that?

Well I heard it myself from practically anybody up until 2015. I even attended quite a lot of conference talks on this topic... I'm sure it's not hard to find it online, famously a NASA director (I think?) did so.
Post reply on HN