- Over 50% of the workers flew in from Taiwan to work on this plant and make these chips. - The chips still need to fly back to Taiwan to be packaged as there are no facilities here with such a capability. Made in america is a hard sell. But at least showing the glaring STEM field gap in the U.S. is a start to finally addressing the brain drain.
Apple will soon receive 'made in America' chips from TSMC's Arizona fab
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Re: Apple will soon receive 'made in America' chips from TSMC's Arizona fab
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
The smallest process they've got up and running right now is 4nm, last I checked
So which device will these be for then? I thought Apple stuff are always on the cutting edge node.
If I was nervous about a new fab, there’s the iPhone SE, the Apple TV, lots of choices for a less aggressive manufacturing node and less aggressive sales figures. If yield is shit you can still offer a product that isn’t killed by its own success.
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
Marine shipping is just about the most fuel efficient way of moving things between any two places, by a lot. A 100,000 dwt ship can get 1050 miles per gallon per ton of cargo. It takes about a teaspoon full of fuel to move an iPhone sized device across the pacific when I ran the numbers last.
To ship things to/from these fabs by sea you have to add the cost of shipping by truck between Phoenix and (presumably) LA. Not sure how big of a difference that makes.
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#74Re: Apple will soon receive 'made in America' chips from TSMC's Arizona fab
#75- Over 50% of the workers flew in from Taiwan to work on this plant and make these chips. - The chips still need to fly back to Taiwan to be packaged as there are no facilities here with such a capability. Made in america is a hard sell. But at least showing the glaring STEM field gap in the U.S. is a start to finally addressing the brain drain.
Also a lot of US STEM grads have their skills wasted in unproductive fields, like the ad business.
Re: Apple will soon receive 'made in America' chips from TSMC's Arizona fab
#76- Over 50% of the workers flew in from Taiwan to work on this plant and make these chips. - The chips still need to fly back to Taiwan to be packaged as there are no facilities here with such a capability. Made in america is a hard sell. But at least showing the glaring STEM field gap in the U.S. is a start to finally addressing the brain drain.
Over 50% of the workers flew in from Taiwan to work on this plant and make these chips.
Those are the 50% we’re willing to bring in no questions asked via any visa program.
Not the elusive Java developer.
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
How does this make any financial sense?
I'm suprised they can't ship (flat) packaging that could be used in Arizona with a simple assembly line. If they had that packaging design then for this to make financial sense the two way shipping (and loading, unloading, custom clearance etc) would have to be less than shipping the packaging, the setup cost per unit cost of putting the chip in a box
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The chips still need to fly back to Taiwan The planet burned, but at least we made a few chips in America.
you can fly a few hundred million dollars worth of chips in a single flight. You need not be concerned. The impact from temu shipments is several orders of magnitude higher.
By my rough calculations a million iPhones of a15s is about 200kg of silicon. excluding packaging, which would dwarf this mass entirely.
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#79Most all major cutlery companies have product lines that are produced solely in Taiwan (Spyderco, Cold Steel, Demko, etc.)
It would be nice to see Taiwanese steel industy move some production to the US as well.
Re: Apple will soon receive 'made in America' chips from TSMC's Arizona fab
#80- Over 50% of the workers flew in from Taiwan to work on this plant and make these chips. - The chips still need to fly back to Taiwan to be packaged as there are no facilities here with such a capability. Made in america is a hard sell. But at least showing the glaring STEM field gap in the U.S. is a start to finally addressing the brain drain.