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Re: GitHub Git Operations Are Down

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Not sure if I am just noticing GitHub's issues more often as I am using their tools pretty much every day but their availability is kinda not great. Be it Actions failing or something "not core business" (read: git operations) but I can't remember a month in the past where I was not annoyed by any outage on GitHub

Agreed, I wonder what their downtime percentage is. If guess it's down on the order of one hour per month, so 1/1000.

Update: They promise >99.9% on a quarterly basis for enterprise customers - https://github.com/github/docs/blob/main/content%2Fsite-poli...

Re: GitHub Git Operations Are Down

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It's almost as if only Git is distributed, but people sold out to Github for convenience. Too bad Git lacks a distributed bug tracker and wiki system like Fossil. Guess Github has to fail a lot more for things to change.

people could not be more clear that their preference is for reliable and easy-to-use centralized services maintained by professionals, and not decentralized systems that require a great deal of user expertise

I actually don't care whether it's centralised or decentralised, or who's managing it.

But you are right that I want reliable and easy-to-use services. And centralisation is often one way to go there.

As an interesting counterpoint: Git itself is decentralised and replaced centralised services like Subversion. And that made git easier to use, especially easier to get started with: no need for a server, no need to be online, just do `git init` in any old directory.

A GitHub-clone could be more decentralised, but they'd need to use that decentralisation to drive those other features that people actually care about day to day.

Re: GitHub Git Operations Are Down

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a world in which GitHub used an open protocol for the social network part of their product like BlueSky's AT protocol[0]? [0] https://docs.bsky.app/docs/advanced-guides/atproto

not p2p, but federated: https://forgefed.org (ActivityPub extension) I believe Gitea has support for it, not sure to what extent.

Forgejo (Gitea fork) has been working for multiple years to add support for this. It will still take a lot of effort to finish, I doubt we will see anything usable this year.

Originally the plan was to PR the federation support to Gitea as well. I'm not sure if this is still the case, considering the rising tensions between the two projects and the fact that Forgejo is now a hard fork.

Re: GitHub Git Operations Are Down

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ironically github is sort of the exception that proves the rule: decentralized in the one way that really matters (decoupled development on individual systems), but centralized for easy interaction in the way the market demands.

Similar thing that happens with crypto exchanges, also swift transfers and federal states for that matter.

Yes, subsidiarity is a great principle.. in-principle, but in practice it often gets the curb. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsidiarity

So far, having individual small countries seems to keep the centralisation at bay for longer than just having states in a federation.

(Look at Germany, Austria, Australia, the USA for examples of the latter. Interestingly, the UK is legally not made of federal states, but in practice they have granted more autonomy to eg Scotland over the years. And everyone knows that Scotland would secede and get away with it, if there was a power grab by London. In that sense, they are more federal than the US, where secession is very much verboten.)

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