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How did they make cars fall apart in old movies (2017)

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Re: How did they make cars fall apart in old movies (2017)

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By the way, I always wondered why we got modern versions of the Mini and the Beetle, but not the 2CV.

I guess the answer depends on which aspect of the 2CV is being replicated in the new version. If its "outrageously small but can still take you and a goose to market", Citroën have a tiny little electric vehicle, the Ami, today. If its "something simple enough that a farmer can weld the panels themselves", I fear those days are long gone, in the same way that the OG Land Rover Defender is no longer a car you can wren…

The Hilux went the other way: you can apply wrench to nut, but the odds of you needing to do so recede into the distance.

Re: How did they make cars fall apart in old movies (2017)

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> I don't want performers to risk their safety, health and life for my entertainment. I mean, they pretty much all do to some degree. It's not healthy on your body to do eight Broadway shows a week. Or to be constantly switching between all-day and all-night shoots on a TV show. And performing a role of high emotional trauma every day for weeks or months takes its own kind of toll too. Obviously nobody should be at r…

> Nobody is forced into it. And i’m not forced to watch it. So all is fair.

Your position is similar to why I stopped watched NFL games. I get that players choose to play (for money), but at the end of the day, I am unwilling to contribute to brain damage.

Re: How did they make cars fall apart in old movies (2017)

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Those reasons seem to make sense but I'd say just as much has to do with Buster Keaton himself, he had nerves of steel. During the filming of the Civil War movie The General there are images of Keaton doing things that even the bravest of stuntmen wouldn't do these days and we'd now rely on film animation and tricks to make the scenes work. For instance, Keaton—who obviously was very fit and agile—is filmed sitting o…

I found the movie interesting in that they managed to make the Confederates the good guys by simply never showing a Black person on screen or mentioning slavery. There were a few good stunts and it was worth watching as a historical curiosity, but I didn't think it was all that good as a movie. I'm not American, so may have missed some things that would have let me follow the story better.

I recommend listening to the episode of the Blank Check podcast about The General (and Battling Butler), if you can sanction some buffoonery. It's a mix of a comedy podcast and deep movie analysis, which is not for everybody. For that episode they brought in writer Jamelle Bouie who is both a huge movie buff and a student of American history who brings in some great perspective on the Lost Cause.

https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/battling-butler-the-ge...

Re: How did they make cars fall apart in old movies (2017)

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I immediately assumed this article was about the French movie Le Corniaud (1965) in which a 2CV falls apart in 250 pieces in an accident—this scene specifically: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnLj5Xo4zBc&t=19s It became one of the most iconic scene of French comedy movies. To prepare the scene, the special effects engineer sawed off the car in 250 pieces, reattached every piece with hooks, and secured the hooks wit…

I'm not sure how to translate this line: « Ah ben maintenant elle va marcher beaucoup moins bien, forcément ! » (Bourvil reportedly improvised it, causing de Funès to start laughing and bow his head to hide it). Google Translate: “Ah well now it’s going to work a lot less well, of course!” Deepl: - It's going to work much less well. - It's going to run much less smoothly. - It's going to run a lot less smoothly. None…

Something like "Oh well now it will run a lot less well, obviously." Seems like the more or less literal translation.

"a lot less well" is the awkward part, a more natural construction would be a negation "is not going to run well" or something like that.

Re: How did they make cars fall apart in old movies (2017)

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For those who don't know, Keaton was amazingly dedicated as a comedic stuntman - a silent era Jackie Chan (he was less popular after the silent era, but kept working until his death in the 60s). From Wikipedia: Garry Moore recalled, "I asked (Keaton) how he did all those falls, and he said, 'I'll show you.' He opened his jacket and he was all bruised. So that's how he did it—it hurt—but you had to care enough not to…

> He opened his jacket and he was all bruised. So that's how he did it—it hurt—but you had to care enough not to care. I don't want performers to risk their safety, health and life for my entertainment. Obviously I cannot stop it, but I can stop watching those who engage in things like this. (And I don't just mean the stunt performer, but the director, the producers, the studio and the franchise.) I have unsubscribed…

There's a youtube channel out there that used to be a sort of nature channel, but seems to have devolved into 'Get stung/bit by painful animal X'. I haven't watched their stuff in ages, but I'm very aware that the original channel host isn't the one getting stung anymore. I have to wonder what it was like from their perspective, watching the view counts go up and up with each successive "Hurt yourself on camera" video, and wondering what to do next.

Re: How did they make cars fall apart in old movies (2017)

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I'm surprised there's no mention yet of the incredible scene from the 1980 film "The Blues Brothers". https://youtu.be/QfN1GRqKXpM?si=-4Mwmipl5sCFtCWN This practical effect took weeks to set up. I can't find documentation specifying any special techniques used to create this version of the car. I recall reading an interview naming the builder who set it up, and how no one on set was allowed to touch it except the act…

takes off hat

Re: How did they make cars fall apart in old movies (2017)

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Video of some of his better stunts: https://youtu.be/yOo_ZUVU_O8?si=1OEwZTk-d88ma2Zs And a great Every Frame a Painting film essay on his work: https://youtu.be/UWEjxkkB8Xs?si=n-4ZNr_cMnYVKijs He was truly an innovator that makes today’s “films of people talking to each other” look amateurish. A few months ago the local theatre was playing Sherlock Jr. with a live band, and it was awesome. Try to see it in similar ci…

> A few months ago the local theatre was playing Sherlock Jr. with a live band AFI in Silver Spring?

Nope, other side of the world

Re: How did they make cars fall apart in old movies (2017)

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I'm not sure how to translate this line: « Ah ben maintenant elle va marcher beaucoup moins bien, forcément ! » (Bourvil reportedly improvised it, causing de Funès to start laughing and bow his head to hide it). Google Translate: “Ah well now it’s going to work a lot less well, of course!” Deepl: - It's going to work much less well. - It's going to run much less smoothly. - It's going to run a lot less smoothly. None…

All four sound fine to my native ears. "It's going to run ..." is most natural when talking about a vehicle. (French if I recall does not distinguish "working" from "running" for machines generally.)

Thanks.

While the primary meaning of 'marcher' is 'to walk', it can be used for machines and vehicles indeed. 'Rouler' is for vehicles only. Interestingly in English the verb 'to run' is used, suggesting higher speed.

The expression “to work better” is quite common but I don't remember seeing “to work less well”. And as I was taught that « plus grand » translates to “taller” but « moins grand » to “not as tall as”, I expected something more involved.

Re: How did they make cars fall apart in old movies (2017)

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> Then you have to stop watching any competition of anything Done. Easy. > stop reading about start up on HN as well I don’t think there the motivation is to create entertainment though. But i don’t care much about that kind of content either. > forget about any extra ordinnary human achivement I disagree with that. Plenty of extraordinary human achievements were created under circumstances I find acceptable to celeb…

Let's not scale mountains, explore the oceans, cross the poles, or go to space. Why be heroic when we can all hold hands and be safe.

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