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Datadog acquires Quickwit

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Re: Datadog acquires Quickwit

#71

Do any engineers actually like DD? Execs/managers seem to love DD and get upsold all the time on it and ask engineers to implement some of their half-baked features. It seems like its good for alerts and dashboards for infrastructure teams. But as an engineer its a pain and using it for log analysis is much more annoying than just tracking down the actual relevant logs and grepping.

DD is the Oracle/SAP of o11y. Scumbags that kill innovation.

Re: Datadog acquires Quickwit

#73
post #30

I hate Datadog. We use their name as an epithet at our company for how not to sell/market. Their selling tactics circa 2015-2018 completely burned us out. Endless calls and emails. The icing on the cake was an AWS reInvent presentation on Lambda right when lambda was first announced. We were pumped to get in on lambda early. Got the whole crew to attend the talk. Turned out to be a rudimentary copy of a Barr "lambda…

There are multiple possible outcomes from the merge with Datadog. As my ex manager once told - there is no such thing as nice people in P&L statement. Someone has to pay It's very easy to be anxious and see the path to the dark side here. However one of possible outcomes - there will be a valid open source competitor to Grafana ecosystems, and this along secure the rest of scene from relicensing. There is a chance it…

Is Grafana and its ecosystem no longer open source? I haven't used it in a while

Re: Datadog acquires Quickwit

#74
post #2

Curious what Datadog is going to build with this tech. Believe this company pitching themselves as OSS competitor to Datadog a few months ago.

Pretty clear they want it to keep a moat on their side. Can't see Datadog continuing investing in this - it's a pretty direct competitor. What happened to Vector the last opensource they bought? Are they still hired?

(disclaimer: Datadog employee)

I haven't kept super close tabs on it but last year we were hiring for a role to do tech lead stuff and OSS community building for Vector, and yes several of the original Vector employees still work here.

Re: Datadog acquires Quickwit

#75

Do any engineers actually like DD? Execs/managers seem to love DD and get upsold all the time on it and ask engineers to implement some of their half-baked features. It seems like its good for alerts and dashboards for infrastructure teams. But as an engineer its a pain and using it for log analysis is much more annoying than just tracking down the actual relevant logs and grepping.

It’s good, I like it. I don’t use the logs product (we splunk) but I’m big fan of the automatic profiling and trace/span stuff. It’s like 50% better UX compared to other tools I’ve tried. But it’s expensive enough we’re always thinking about moving off it. That will be a very sad day for me.

Re: Datadog acquires Quickwit

#76
post #29

We just moved from Elastic to Quickwit. Sigh. What other open source, object storage backed logging databases do people recommend?

I suggest giving SigNoz a try. Built on top of Clickhouse, it’s fast and scalable https://github.com/SigNoz/signoz PS: I am maintainer at SigNoz

what another open source you can recommend ?

Re: Datadog acquires Quickwit

#77
post #37

Happy that Quickwit is going to Apache 2. Sad that the team won't be working on it anymore. I loved that I was able to setup Quickwit on AWS lambda and have a good cloud based search engine for $0.01 / month.

Interesting comment. Any thoughts on what you can use now?

The same thing? The community will maintain it

Re: Datadog acquires Quickwit

#78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love quickwit, unfortunately datadog has a history of murdering open source (e.g. vector.io halting development and never fixing gross bugs)

Yeah, a Vector dev that is now at Datadog told me that Vector is essentially deprecated.

(Disclaimer: datadog employee)

I joined Datadog after the Vector acquisition and now currently am the manager for the Community Open Source Engineering team that works on Vector open source.

It’s def. not deprecated, but it did take awhile to sort out. It’s not easy figuring out business vs giving away software for free.

Anyways, there’s quite a few issues and GitHub discussions everyday, in addition to Discord chats.

Re: Datadog acquires Quickwit

#79
post #2

Curious what Datadog is going to build with this tech. Believe this company pitching themselves as OSS competitor to Datadog a few months ago.

Pretty clear they want it to keep a moat on their side. Can't see Datadog continuing investing in this - it's a pretty direct competitor. What happened to Vector the last opensource they bought? Are they still hired?

(Disclaimer: also datadog employee)

I joined Datadog after the Vector acquisition and now currently am the manager for the Community Open Source Engineering team that works on Vector open source.

Just confirming strongly what ripley12 said, as a person with direct involvement in OSS at Datadog.

Re: Datadog acquires Quickwit

#80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are multiple possible outcomes from the merge with Datadog. As my ex manager once told - there is no such thing as nice people in P&L statement. Someone has to pay It's very easy to be anxious and see the path to the dark side here. However one of possible outcomes - there will be a valid open source competitor to Grafana ecosystems, and this along secure the rest of scene from relicensing. There is a chance it…

Is Grafana and its ecosystem no longer open source? I haven't used it in a while

No, no. It's all good and amazing. IMHO Grafana is getting even more important in the light of possible disappearing a solid potential competitor. Hope Datadog will be smart enough with Quickwit and opportunity to win the hearts and minds.

Clearly an opportunity for Datadog to make a big statement here, and change its perceptions.

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