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Normies are who you need to convince if you want to effect social change. If the FSF sticks to their current mission of preaching to the choir, they'll remain about as relevant as they are today, which isn't a lot.
People in power and people with money are who you need to convince..
The GPU, not the TPM, is the root of hardware DRM
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Re: The GPU, not the TPM, is the root of hardware DRM
#72> I'm going to be honest here and say that I don't know what Microsoft's actual motivation for requiring a TPM in Windows 11 is. It is quite obvious: to force people to buy a new PC. TPM provides no added security value for the vast majority of users[1] but it is a convenient hardware that has only started to become standard (fTPM) in PCs built in the last ~8 years so it provides an excuse for Microsoft to declare co…
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/hardware-...
Re: The GPU, not the TPM, is the root of hardware DRM
#73This is a much more accurate statement than the hate on the TPM. As the article describes, it is the GPU that has its own separate memory space that it can show on the screen without the CPU being involved at all. I expect next generation workarounds will involve virtual GPUs.
Re: The GPU, not the TPM, is the root of hardware DRM
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Yes, you can get around it by playing the video in a virtual machine and capturing it from the host. For widevine videos playing in browser it is also as trivial as disabling hardware acceleration from the browser's settings.
But doesn't this limit you to 1080p?
Re: The GPU, not the TPM, is the root of hardware DRM
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With how good modern screens are, and how good cameras are (and how easy both are to hack), you could always play back the video and capture the photons through the air. There was something called Macrovision back in the VHS/DVD days that tried to defeat digital/analog conversion, and I'm sure visual techniques could be devised... But I imagine someone with a good OLED and a good mirrorless camera (or even a cell pho…
Especially when you add HDR to the mix, I think it's still extremely difficult to get a high quality screen recording, if only because it's so hard to get the exposure right.
With a little bit of work (display a few calibration targets and build a quick and dirty LUT to match your display) you can get really convincing results.
Re: The GPU, not the TPM, is the root of hardware DRM
#76> I'm going to be honest here and say that I don't know what Microsoft's actual motivation for requiring a TPM in Windows 11 is. It is quite obvious: to force people to buy a new PC. TPM provides no added security value for the vast majority of users[1] but it is a convenient hardware that has only started to become standard (fTPM) in PCs built in the last ~8 years so it provides an excuse for Microsoft to declare co…
Microsoft doesn't sell hardware. Why would they be incentivized to make you buy new hardware? Unless you're alleging that their hardware partners pushed for it, in which case there would likely be logs of communications that are pretty illegal.
They're also buying new hardware which benefits the PC maker. It's a mutually beneficial relationship that forces the user to both buy the software again, and buy new hardware. (You do pay for Windows when you buy a PC, it's a cost the manufacturer absorbs. You can often receive a discount when you order a new PC by not including Windows with it.)
Re: The GPU, not the TPM, is the root of hardware DRM
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Especially when you add HDR to the mix, I think it's still extremely difficult to get a high quality screen recording, if only because it's so hard to get the exposure right.
Modern dedicated cameras have far more dynamic range than any HDR TV in practice. The movies have to be recorded somehow :)
I'd imagine they do this via huge (non-consumer level) cameras as well as by professional editors and graders who spend countless hours on the process.
But that doesn't really contradict your point. I don't know. I've never seen a good screen recording but I don't download pirated films so perhaps I've never seen an instance of someone really trying to get it right.
Re: The GPU, not the TPM, is the root of hardware DRM
#78Re: The GPU, not the TPM, is the root of hardware DRM
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The end goal is DRM all the way to the screen. No capture cards will be allowed. It's a cat and mouse game, but I wouldn't discount these efforts as a mere speed bump. Screen enforced DRM will make things much harder. A motivated individual with the right tools and hardware hacking know how may be able to jailbreak a screen to record stuff, but that's going to make things out of reach for most people.
It doesn't matter at all how out of reach it is for most people. As long as one kid in Russia can do it, the torrent is available for everyone in the world just as soon. This has already been shown with videogame DRM like Denuvo. It's so hard to crack that only a handful of people know how, and yet they end up racing eachother so eagerly every time a new game comes out that it's usually done in under 24 hours. Unless…
Re: The GPU, not the TPM, is the root of hardware DRM
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
Microsoft doesn't sell hardware. Why would they be incentivized to make you buy new hardware? Unless you're alleging that their hardware partners pushed for it, in which case there would likely be logs of communications that are pretty illegal.
Microsoft does sell operating systems (and user data from those operating systems). Those operating systems are typically bundled / installed by default on computers. It's in their best interests to have everyone using the "latest and greatest" for those features that weren't present (at least to the same extent) in prior versions.