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Re: LineageOS 22

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Post by AnssiH »

prosody wrote: post #42
timschmidt wrote: post #23

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Often device drivers specific to the model of handset are only available as pre-compiled binary blobs, and will not run with any future kernel release without herculean effort to reverse engineer them and implement a shim. This effectively ties the hardware to a single kernel release. The practice makes ewaste of otherwise perfectly usable devices, and should be illegal.

Isn’t that significantly on the Linux kernel not having stable driver ABIs?

AFAIK the Android binary blobs are generally userspace, not kernel drivers.

Re: LineageOS 22

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Post by sweden »

t14000 wrote: post #61

> Android 15 introduced several complex changes under the hood... > Android’s move to trunk-based development, and the subsequent growth in size of Android’s QPRs (Quarterly Platform Releases) have made our job magnitudes harder! As a byproduct we must rebase our entire code-base every 3 months. > Sadly, Google also has a habit of introducing deprecations or outright removing code that older devices rely on with litt…

It should be the opposite, I am a bit confused about LineageOS' statement here. The Quarterly releases represent solid milestones towards the final Android number milestone.

GrapheneOS claims that this made their rebasing much more efficient: instead of receiving a massive dump of all Android 15 at the end, developers receive incremental changes (the QPRs) to help them anticipate major changes in the code.

Re: LineageOS 22

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Post by nanna »

How's LineageOS with WhatsApp, Signal and random banking apps these days?

Or let me put it another way: anyone running LineageOS but struggled to run any essential apps? (I don't care about games or whatever, I mean the apps you need to get around in life).

Re: LineageOS 22

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Post by nubinetwork »

9cb14c1ec0 wrote: post #25
Ologn wrote: post #13

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Samsung has its own bootloader. Some people get it to work with AOSP/LineageOS, but it is an extra pain. So I avoid Samsung for LineageOS. This is a list of support devices https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/ I installed LineageOS on a Motorola Edge a bit back. One problem is it takes a bit of time for a device to get officially supported by LineageOS. By the time it is, stores are often selling the next generation o…

> but it is an extra pain. I've bricked several Samsung devices trying to flash Lineage on them. It is important to follow the Lineage installation instructions very closely.

It used to be dirt easy, i remember my s5 was just "fastboot oem unlock" and flash the new image...

Sure you'd lose knox, but nobody really uses it anyways... But from what lineage is saying, it seems Samsung made unlocking impossible on North American devices.

I'm not sure what the law side of things is like for this, because I recall it being mandated that phones could be sim unlocked after contracts expire... someone should try seeing if there is a legal requirement for unlocked bootloaders.

Edit: I wish apps would also stop whinging about unofficial OSes or devices being rooted... banking apps, mostly.

Re: LineageOS 22

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Post by Deukhoofd »

nanna wrote: post #73

How's LineageOS with WhatsApp, Signal and random banking apps these days? Or let me put it another way: anyone running LineageOS but struggled to run any essential apps? (I don't care about games or whatever, I mean the apps you need to get around in life).

I've honestly never run into any problems with apps not working in the last couple of years of using it.

Re: LineageOS 22

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Post by timschumi »

tessierashpool9 wrote: post #54
timschumi wrote: post #7

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To quote from somewhere else: Just to emphasize this for anyone else who is reading this: Please do not feel obligated to donate. Yes, it is greatly appreciated, since it keeps the lights on a little while longer and allows us to provide builds and host continued development. However, we regard donations as having no strings attached, and the same applies for using the builds that we provide. We will be fine, at the…

"Please think of yourself first." = \s ? Anyway ... I'd totally encourage everybody to donate to opensource projects and/or its maintainers. Whatever the effect may be, but I think that's just simply appropriate.

Yes, donations are cool, without them there probably wouldn't be as many build servers (among other things).

However, if donating means that you have to consider your current paycheck size, then it might be more appropriate to put that idea on the back-burner for a while.

If you don't have to make that consideration and/or you feel strongly obligated to donate, then by all means, please do so.

Re: LineageOS 22

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Post by [deleted] »

npteljes wrote: post #70
gessha wrote: post #32

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What would be the attack vectors for malware on a tablet? I’m genuinely curious how crucial updates are for older devices.

For example, there could be a web-based attack that would target unpatched webviews. This could be a maliciously prepared webpage or image on the web, favicon etc, and this piece of data could be distributed by an ad network, for example. So, browsing the internet with an out of date browser or webview could pose this risk. Another issue is escalation. Again, we are in a speculative realm, but if a device is affected…

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Re: LineageOS 22

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Post by catlikesshrimp »

prmoustache wrote: post #49
climb_stealth wrote: post #9

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Out of curiosity, what do you buy? I had Xiaomi last and bought another one recently and they have made it pretty much impossible to unlock the bootloader. Apparently limited number of unlocks at 12am Beijing time. I have tried a few times, read through all the complaints and the community forums, and Xiaomi can very kindly just fuck off. It used to be really good value for money as the hardware is great. But without…

I managed to unlock a xiaomi redmi note 9. The bootloader unlock tool only work on windows and on intel based computers (don't ask me why). I had to reinstall temporarily a windows on a computer to do that. But this is really a brand to avoid at all cost anyway. Also these smartphones come super bloated out of the box with apps phoning home constantly, and super unreliables. 2 members of my houshold owned one and on…

You get profiled when you sign up for unlocking a xiaomi.

In order to use the official windows-only tool: You make a xiaomi account, wait a month or more, then put an internet connected sim card that receives an sms verification and try to unlock, if it fails, you wait a day to try again.

You can unlock about 3 devices at most every 6 months with one account.

They found a balance that is easy enough for tech saavy users, but not too easy for the general population. Helping someone with his phone is a chore if you aren't charging money for it.

Xda forums is much less interested in developing unlocking for xiaomis since there is this official method, and I can't blame them.

Re: LineageOS 22

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Post by FuturisticGoo »

nanna wrote: post #73

How's LineageOS with WhatsApp, Signal and random banking apps these days? Or let me put it another way: anyone running LineageOS but struggled to run any essential apps? (I don't care about games or whatever, I mean the apps you need to get around in life).

WhatsApp and Signal run perfectly fine (WhatsApp shows a little warning on first run, that its an unsupported ROM, nothing else).

As for banking apps, it depends. Some work, some don't. One way to test it would be to use Waydroid emulator on Linux, which uses Lineage OS image.

Re: LineageOS 22

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Post by catlikesshrimp »

prmoustache wrote: post #55
notpushkin wrote: post #52

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Yeah, I went through it once. You also have to wait for 30 days IIRC. There are unofficial unlock tools on Linux / macOS, though: https://github.com/topminipie/awesome-xiaomi-bootloader-unlo... The problem is, you can create as many Mi accounts as you want. They can make it slightly harder by verifying your phone number, but that’s also pretty easy to circumvent.

Thanks for the pointers, when I did it, all the linux tools I had found had been abandonned/were not working.

Don't sweat it. The link for the official tool in the official xiaomi site directs to an old version that didn't work for my old phone.

I found The latest version in xdaforums, and that worked, thankfully.

The whole xiaomi experience is very unpolished. The siteS are a mess for this, the tool looks like a cooked homebrew, and their English doesn't look official.

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