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3D-printed neighborhood nears completion in Texas

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Re: 3D-printed neighborhood nears completion in Texas

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Post by tantalor »

janalsncm wrote: post #70
9cb14c1ec0 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the selling price. It doesn't say anything at all about construction costs, but more about the housing market in general.

I disagree. I checked Georgetown, TX for comparable homes in the area (3b/2ba, ~1500 sqft) and it seems many houses are going for under $400k. But “Dyce” sells for $470k. https://www.lennar.com/new-homes/texas/austin-central-texas/... Just as a random example, this is a comparable house (bigger in fact) and selling for $365k. https://www.redfin.com/TX/Georgetown/346-White-River-Dr-7862... I think this is a really coo…

You misunderstood. If I can build a house for half the cost, that goes to my profit margin, not a discount for the buyer.

Re: 3D-printed neighborhood nears completion in Texas

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Post by janalsncm »

brudgers wrote: post #44
cbames89 wrote: post #26

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It's ~21% the cost of a home, it's actually the single most costly and labor intense category. That being said it does only take 14-21 days to frame a home.

At scale it takes significantly less time because the designs are familiar and there are not mobilizations and demobilizations. The next framing job is on the next lot.

So if a technology could cut that cost in half it would be desirable even if it took twice as long because in real terms your final cost drops 10% and only takes 2 more weeks.

Re: 3D-printed neighborhood nears completion in Texas

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Post by janalsncm »

tantalor wrote: post #71
janalsncm wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. I checked Georgetown, TX for comparable homes in the area (3b/2ba, ~1500 sqft) and it seems many houses are going for under $400k. But “Dyce” sells for $470k. https://www.lennar.com/new-homes/texas/austin-central-texas/... Just as a random example, this is a comparable house (bigger in fact) and selling for $365k. https://www.redfin.com/TX/Georgetown/346-White-River-Dr-7862... I think this is a really coo…

You misunderstood. If I can build a house for half the cost, that goes to my profit margin, not a discount for the buyer.

As Jeff Bezos says, your margin is my opportunity. So yes, it would drive costs down. But we aren’t even there yet because the houses aren’t being sold because they’re too expensive.

Another way to pad your profit margins would be to raise the asking price of the $360k home by $100k. There is a reason people aren’t doing that.

Re: 3D-printed neighborhood nears completion in Texas

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Post by amelius »

ternnoburn wrote: post #34

If you have the ability to pump concrete, and a gantry across the whole site, why wouldn't you pick and place concrete blocks or other materials rather than concrete the whole thing on site? Also, aren't these walls significantly more CO2 unfriendly than lumber, and more difficult to renovate? What if I need to get a builder in to do repairs, is there a concrete wall guy who knows how to repair them? Can it print mul…

Because you can just run the electrical wiring and plumbing and cover it all in concrete (?)

Re: 3D-printed neighborhood nears completion in Texas

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Post by rescripting »

amelius wrote: post #74
ternnoburn wrote: post #34

If you have the ability to pump concrete, and a gantry across the whole site, why wouldn't you pick and place concrete blocks or other materials rather than concrete the whole thing on site? Also, aren't these walls significantly more CO2 unfriendly than lumber, and more difficult to renovate? What if I need to get a builder in to do repairs, is there a concrete wall guy who knows how to repair them? Can it print mul…

Because you can just run the electrical wiring and plumbing and cover it all in concrete (?)

That seems like a huge drawback? Running new electrical and plumbing and doing repairs becomes much more difficult.

Re: 3D-printed neighborhood nears completion in Texas

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Post by amelius »

rescripting wrote: post #75
amelius wrote: post #74

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Because you can just run the electrical wiring and plumbing and cover it all in concrete (?)

That seems like a huge drawback? Running new electrical and plumbing and doing repairs becomes much more difficult.

Yes, plan in advance ...

Re: 3D-printed neighborhood nears completion in Texas

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Post by ibash »

FrustratedMonky wrote: post #63
tmountain wrote: post #52

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It’s a gimmick. There is no point other than marketing.

"It’s a gimmick" Early attempts always look gimmicki. Putting a camera in a phone, crazy, who needs it, just a gimmick. I use my phone to dial numbers and make calls. This looks like it has a lot of room to grow and adapt. Materials change. Just look at how 3d printers have changed in 10 years.

3d printers haven’t changed that much… they’ve gotten easier to use, sure, but the materials and quality we’re printing is about the same as 10 years ago.

Re: 3D-printed neighborhood nears completion in Texas

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Post by kleiba »

rescripting wrote: post #75
amelius wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because you can just run the electrical wiring and plumbing and cover it all in concrete (?)

That seems like a huge drawback? Running new electrical and plumbing and doing repairs becomes much more difficult.

Welcome to Germany.

Re: 3D-printed neighborhood nears completion in Texas

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Post by lm28469 »

amelius wrote: post #76
rescripting wrote: post #75

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That seems like a huge drawback? Running new electrical and plumbing and doing repairs becomes much more difficult.

Yes, plan in advance ...

Every home builder is planing in advance, the problem is that down the line you'll realize mistakes you didn't think about, 100% of the time. You also can't plan failures in advance that good, and if you do care about that you certainly won't encase all your utilities in concrete

Re: 3D-printed neighborhood nears completion in Texas

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Post by lm28469 »

FrustratedMonky wrote: post #63
tmountain wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a gimmick. There is no point other than marketing.

"It’s a gimmick" Early attempts always look gimmicki. Putting a camera in a phone, crazy, who needs it, just a gimmick. I use my phone to dial numbers and make calls. This looks like it has a lot of room to grow and adapt. Materials change. Just look at how 3d printers have changed in 10 years.

Survivor bias helps a lot here. For every thing that sticks you have thousands of absolute flops that we all forget very quickly
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