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OpenAI is Visa – Buttering up the government to retain a monopoly

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Re: OpenAI is Visa – Buttering up the government to retain a monopoly

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All he’d have to do is get interest rates to rise 25bps and then poof, his competitors would evaporate.

Saying we should replicate the Russian economy then?

I'm mocking the whole idea of this or that lobbying being done to crush a particular competitor, when tech companies are very much a Rising Tide Lifts All Boats business.

Re: OpenAI is Visa – Buttering up the government to retain a monopoly

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> You can have a Mastercard, but now if you want to shop at Costco with credit you have to have a Visa. Or you simply shop at Costco without a credit card, and pay cash instead. :-)

And simply pay 1-2% more than everyone else using a Visa card.

Even if this is potentially true, 1 to 2 % is a very fair price to pay to be independent of their credit card network and paying much more anonymously.

Re: OpenAI is Visa – Buttering up the government to retain a monopoly

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In most of Europe and several large Asian cities I visited, AMEX and Discover acceptance is far lower than Visa/MC (which charge lower fees to merchants).

AMEX/Discover is virtually unknown in most of Europe. Outside of US-defaultism, why in the world would anyone expect it to be accepted here?

Diner's Club is equivalent to Discover card and is at least somewhat present in European countries. I don't know official numbers but I've seen it often enough and have used it once or twice.

Re: OpenAI is Visa – Buttering up the government to retain a monopoly

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Doesn't explain what regulations Visa pushed for and got which helped it maintain its monopoly. Would be helpful to have some concrete examples of what it did and what OpenAI is trying to do. The point of the article sounds plausible, but doesn't really present any evidence to support it. Also OpenAI in no way has a monopoly of the kind that Visa/MC has.

It's written by Taylor Lorenz. I wouldn't expect it to be particularly well-researched; just to have a maximally anti-tech slant.

Nothing in this article is anti-tech. Anti-monopoly, yes.

Re: OpenAI is Visa – Buttering up the government to retain a monopoly

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Saying we should replicate the Russian economy then?

I'm mocking the whole idea of this or that lobbying being done to crush a particular competitor, when tech companies are very much a Rising Tide Lifts All Boats business.

Tech companies like Microsoft, one of the few ever convicted monopolists in the US

Re: OpenAI is Visa – Buttering up the government to retain a monopoly

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Doesn't explain what regulations Visa pushed for and got which helped it maintain its monopoly. Would be helpful to have some concrete examples of what it did and what OpenAI is trying to do. The point of the article sounds plausible, but doesn't really present any evidence to support it. Also OpenAI in no way has a monopoly of the kind that Visa/MC has.

> Also OpenAI in no way has a monopoly of the kind that Visa/MC has. I think this is misreading how literal the comparison is meant to be; Sherwood's running a bunch of "OpenAI is X" articles today. This is not about the massive duopoly which has been catastrophic for US payments, but about the way companies entrench themselves. > Doesn't explain what regulations Visa pushed for and got which helped it maintain its m…

The duopoly isn’t really as problematic as the concept itself. Credit cards, where customers are bribed to insert a middleman into all transactions and suppliers are largely powerless to refuse it; are a plague. The switching costs of a consumer to a different credit card are small. The switching cost of a business saying they no longer allow certain payment types is potentially very painful.

Re: OpenAI is Visa – Buttering up the government to retain a monopoly

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are you allergic to doing your own research like everyone else on hacker news? someone took the time to write a thought provoking article and all i see is critical reception.

> allergic to doing your own research like everyone else on hacker news if an article wants to make a point, then the onus in on the article author to present evidence that supports their view, not on the readers to try to find the evidence supporting the author's view

that seems like a very convenient and lazy interpretation of what hacker news is for. a comment can be anything, including info that helps clarify what the original poster said. can we come to the forum in good faith, or is anonymity too tempting a mistress?

Re: OpenAI is Visa – Buttering up the government to retain a monopoly

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are you allergic to doing your own research like everyone else on hacker news? someone took the time to write a thought provoking article and all i see is critical reception.

When an article provokes thoughts with assertions that OpenAI has a meaningful monopoly on AI to maintain, sometimes those thoughts are “that article is just wrong.”

>As of December 2024, OpenAI's ChatGPT maintains a dominant position in the AI chatbot market, with over 300 million weekly active users, processing more than 1 billion messages daily. (THE VERGE)

>In contrast, Anthropic's Claude AI has experienced significant growth, with its website receiving over 54.4 million monthly visits. (NOTTA)

Re: OpenAI is Visa – Buttering up the government to retain a monopoly

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In most of Europe and several large Asian cities I visited, AMEX and Discover acceptance is far lower than Visa/MC (which charge lower fees to merchants).

AMEX/Discover is virtually unknown in most of Europe. Outside of US-defaultism, why in the world would anyone expect it to be accepted here?

“Amex is virtually unknown in most of Europe” doesn’t match my experience. Most major European economies have AmEx and AmEx issues many local cards to them
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