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38th Chaos Communication Congress

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Re: 38th Chaos Communication Congress

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Post by ulnarkressty »

Y_Y wrote: post #9

I love watching CCC every years though I rarely catch it live. Since we have a couple of days to wait for this year's talk, I'll ask. Does it bother anyone else that some talks are in German, or does it bother anyone else that they find themselves bothered that the talks are in German? I love all languages great and small, natural and formal and so I'm conflicted on subjects like this. I find young German speakers to…

I have commented about this in the past and got downvoted for it. There is a reason why virtually all international conferences require presentations and talks to be held in English. If this was a German-only event it would be understandable, however as it is written on their website the CCC congress is "the biggest European hacker gathering and has grown into one of the most important conferences on digital transformation."

Another argument put forward is the existence of English dubs for every video. I have found the quality of these dubs varies a lot, since they are run by volunteers and not people experienced in live translation. In some talks there can be segments without any translation, and in one case the translator even "gave up" because the speaker was talking too fast.

Re: 38th Chaos Communication Congress

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Post by namibj »

miki123211 wrote: post #59
korfuri wrote: post #45

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Hi, I'm a long standing CCC interpreter (volunteer of course). We aim to interpret live 100% of the talks in German (* we do not always interpret things that aren't strictly speaking talks, like poetry readings or performance art, although we try to make these as accessible as we can). We also interpret various talks into other languages - we have a sizeable team working on French and Spanish interpretation, and depe…

Thank you, I didn't realize this existed. I have accessibility needs (screen reader user) that make subtitles less fun to use than they would otherwise be, and I speak no German, so those interpreted recordings would be really great for me. I assume you don't publish on Youtube? That's how I usually consume CCC content, mostly due to YT's recommendation algorithms and excellent cross-device "continue playback" suppor…

Until very recently YouTube did not support multiple user-choice audio tracks on a video, so they would have needed to be uploaded separately.

Maybe it will change this year, though!

Re: 38th Chaos Communication Congress

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Post by kalium-xyz »

namibj wrote: post #70
wkat4242 wrote: post #51

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For me the price of accommodation is pretty prohibitive. It's one of the most expensive times of the year and Germany is also one of the most expensive countries in Europe. I've looked at it once but the hotels were too expensive for me (I think it was in Hamburg then). But it's ok, I can watch it online. I don't like travelling during this busy period anyway.

There is affordable accomodation: nearby gymnasiums where you bring a "bed" and "duvet" and "towel+shampoo" and get by with like 5 bucks a night.

I dont think thats for everyone. Speaking as someone who has done it.

Re: 38th Chaos Communication Congress

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Post by korfuri »

miki123211 wrote: post #59
korfuri wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi, I'm a long standing CCC interpreter (volunteer of course). We aim to interpret live 100% of the talks in German (* we do not always interpret things that aren't strictly speaking talks, like poetry readings or performance art, although we try to make these as accessible as we can). We also interpret various talks into other languages - we have a sizeable team working on French and Spanish interpretation, and depe…

Thank you, I didn't realize this existed. I have accessibility needs (screen reader user) that make subtitles less fun to use than they would otherwise be, and I speak no German, so those interpreted recordings would be really great for me. I assume you don't publish on Youtube? That's how I usually consume CCC content, mostly due to YT's recommendation algorithms and excellent cross-device "continue playback" suppor…

I'm glad we can be of service to you! There used to be a live captioning team writing subtitles but I think that effort stopped. I heard people were looking at AI-based captioning but I have not kept up with the plans for this year.

I know in previous years talks were published on YT, I assume this will still be the case this year. Normally the VOC team does miracles to publish incredibly quickly too, so you should be able to have the recorded talks online same-day.

Re: 38th Chaos Communication Congress

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Post by dlmotol »

TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #4

What talks are people most interested in? It looks like Joscha Bach [0] is continuing his "From Computation to Consciousness" series. I've enjoyed some of his older talks so I'll probably check out this new entry as well. A few of the science talks related to biology also seem really interesting, although it reminds me of how much I'm lacking in understanding and knowledge of the topic. It looks like there's a big fo…

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Re: 38th Chaos Communication Congress

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Post by croes »

wkat4242 wrote: post #51
jazzyjackson wrote: post #23

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It's really a pretty strong web of trust system, if you know anyone who's volunteered previous years there are vouchers floating around by word of mouth. If you don't know anyone in the community, purchasing a ticket online is a crapshoot. IMO this is a feature not a bug.

For me the price of accommodation is pretty prohibitive. It's one of the most expensive times of the year and Germany is also one of the most expensive countries in Europe. I've looked at it once but the hotels were too expensive for me (I think it was in Hamburg then). But it's ok, I can watch it online. I don't like travelling during this busy period anyway.

Most expensive?

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/rankings_by_country.js...

Some things are pretty cheap compared to other countries, meat for instance

Re: 38th Chaos Communication Congress

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Post by Vespasian »

pantalaimon wrote: post #37
jazzyjackson wrote: post #23

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It's really a pretty strong web of trust system, if you know anyone who's volunteered previous years there are vouchers floating around by word of mouth. If you don't know anyone in the community, purchasing a ticket online is a crapshoot. IMO this is a feature not a bug.

It’s an inventive to volunteer

It really isn't.

Tickets are not that hard to get and you are not required to do anything once you have one.

I believe some core orga members (aka The people contracting the venue, getting permissions and renting equipment etc) are guaranteed a ticket but almost everybody else has to buy their own.

The fact that the "hacker space community" gets preferential treatment is very much intended.

Re: 38th Chaos Communication Congress

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Post by mr_mitm »

kalium-xyz wrote: post #73
namibj wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is affordable accomodation: nearby gymnasiums where you bring a "bed" and "duvet" and "towel+shampoo" and get by with like 5 bucks a night.

I dont think thats for everyone. Speaking as someone who has done it.

Of course not, it's for people who can't spend more than five bucks a night.

Re: 38th Chaos Communication Congress

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Post by aveao »

jazzyjackson wrote: post #23
sevg wrote: post #6

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Out of curiosity, what was horrible and unfair about it? (Genuine question, I don’t know anything about how it was done.)

It's really a pretty strong web of trust system, if you know anyone who's volunteered previous years there are vouchers floating around by word of mouth. If you don't know anyone in the community, purchasing a ticket online is a crapshoot. IMO this is a feature not a bug.

1) Volunteers (who worked 15+ hrs on last congress for free) get two tickets with priority.

2) Hackerspaces get a number of tickets with priority, thru replicating tickets (you can only buy one per day). The amount of replicating tickets given depends on size of area (a hackerspace can be tasked with giving vouchers to relevant people in their city). There's a limited quantity of these tickets, separate from amount of vouchers.

The main point of the congress is primarily to bring the chaos crowd together, then the rest of interested parties. That model may not fit your vision, but chaos events year after year succeed at not leaving out the core crowd.

Also, this year I have bought 2 tickets on public sale for friends without issues (best way to get tickets is to group up with your friends).

It's always taken high effort to buy tickets for c3, needing to be exactly on time (not 30 seconds late) to each sale round.

37c3 was an exception due to low sales, caused by skepticism in the event returning after years of not happening. This year that trust was regained and buying tickets became hard again.

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