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An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by ch0wn »

cageface wrote: post #2

I have to give Siegler credit for actually posting an objective review of an Android device. No matter which side you favor in the tablet wars I think you have to agree that we're better off as hackers and consumers in a market with real competition. Rather than picking sides we should be happy that Apple and Google are pushing each other to improve their hardware and software at a rate we rarely see in consumer elec…

It really depends on what you perceive as objective. I'm not sure I would call it objective, but I would certainly call it a bad review. Every other sentence contains an Apple reference. While this is to be expected when Siegler writes a review, this is a way too narrow view for a good review.

His conclusion is basically, that there is room for an iPad Mini and Jelly Bean is faster and not much about the Nexus7 itself.

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by gurkendoktor »

tonfa wrote: post #56
glimcat wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jelly Bean added a bunch of stuff that I'm very happy to see as a developer. But it will take a long while for that to trickle down to the user level, even for people who get on Jelly Bean quickly. On the other hand, this translates into bucketloads of low-hanging fruit if you're an Android developer.

> But it will take a long while for that to trickle down to the user level If the Nexus 7 has the same success as the Kindle Fire (or better) then a large proportion of tablet users would be on JB.

…in the US (and maybe UK).

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by entropy_ »

taligent wrote: post #53
redthrowaway wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Objective, to me, means 'not based upon personal tastes, opinions, and biases'. So this review is completely subjective, as it's based entirely upon what he likes. Regardless, it is nice to see him set the homer hat aside and write an article that wasn't either heaping praise on Apple or scorn on Google. MG Siegler is as subjective as any reviewer, but that's not what matters. What matters is that you can usually tel…

Right so your definition of objective is "agrees with what I think". And if he doesn't then he works for Apple PR.

Wait, what? The initial post and the GP are from different people. Also, the one you're replying to clearly states: "So this review is completely subjective". How do you go from that to 'your definition of objective is "agrees with what I think"'?

He said it's a pleasant surprise, he did not say that was his definition of objective. He clearly states his definition of objective and that this article does not meet it.

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by konstruktor »

Peaker wrote: post #61
w1ntermute wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've had a Transformer Prime for several months and have been enjoying the supposedly unobtainable Android tablet experience that everyone is waiting for. It runs stock ICS and has a 10.1" screen, and I actually wish it had a bit more of a bezel. I really don't understand why people are ignoring the Transformer Prime. And the Transformer Infinity is coming out tomorrow, with a 1920x1200 screen, fixes to the Transform…

I bought a Galaxy Nexus phone for my girlfriend so we wouldn't have to worry about updates anymore. It's still stuck on 4.0.1 with no update in sight...

Jelly Bean is a development preview at the moment. I suppose that, like iOS 6, you have to enroll into the developer program to get it.

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by pooriaazimi »

codeka wrote: post #58
pooriaazimi wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think what I said is true. I can't understand why it's been downvoted...

I didn't down vote, but how did you come up with 290 as a value?

I actually did the math in my head (Thales) and thought 290 might be just about right, but if you want to be more accurate, use http://bhtooefr.org/displaycalc.htm . The number at bottom-right is the distance "at which individual pixels will no longer be distinguishable", a.k.a Retina.

Retina iPad 3: 2048x1536, 9.7" display, distance: 13", PPI: 263

A contrived Retina Nexus 7: 1700x1130, 7" display, distance: 11.75", PPI: 291 (I adjusted screen resolution so the distance is about 11.5")

I tried to do the math myself, but failed miserably. This article on TUAW has some formulas: http://www.tuaw.com/2012/03/01/retina-display-macs-ipads-and...

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by pooriaazimi »

dasil003 wrote: post #63
pooriaazimi wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think what I said is true. I can't understand why it's been downvoted...

I didn't downvote you, but I'm skeptical of the claim. They're both hand-held devices. I don't generally hold my Galaxy Nexus closer to my face than my iPad.

I personally do hold an smaller tablet closer, but I might be wrong and most people don't do it. You're the living example :)

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by epsylon »

cageface wrote: post #2

I have to give Siegler credit for actually posting an objective review of an Android device. No matter which side you favor in the tablet wars I think you have to agree that we're better off as hackers and consumers in a market with real competition. Rather than picking sides we should be happy that Apple and Google are pushing each other to improve their hardware and software at a rate we rarely see in consumer elec…

I don't understand why people praise a journalist for doing his job (that is, not being a total Apple fanboy). I guess I have different standards towards (tech) journalism.

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by gurkendoktor »

mtgx wrote: post #37

Why would you want to hold your tablet with two hands, other than perhaps gaming? But I figure it should be easier to play them if it's smaller. You're using the iPad with 2 hands, because you don't usually have a choice. I do think Google needs to make the next version 7.7"-8", though. I think 7" is a little too small. Basically they should make one that is as large as possible (but up to 8"), which you can still ho…

> Why would you want to hold your tablet with two hands, other than perhaps gaming?

Only slightly related, but: Is there any data on how people use tablets? I feel we're just making guesses based on smartphones all the time.

Example: My iPad spends the whole breakfast standing (in a case) on the table with me only turning eBook pages. Then it spends the evening somehow tucked into the bed as a movie machine. When I read in bed after that, I always read sideways and I'm happy that the iPad is so wide.

I could never connect with the Kindle ads because it wouldn't occur to me to hold the iPad (or a magazine or thick book) freely to read.

Other people may be obsessed with BT keyboards or other gadgets even.

Re: An iPad Lover’s Take On The Nexus 7

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Post by StavrosK »

w1ntermute wrote: post #9
wavephorm wrote: post #7

Why after a few years is noone able to build a 10 inch tablet? I honestly don't care how good an Android tablet is, I'm just so accustomed to the iPad form factor that I won't give it up. To get me interested, an Android manufacturer needs to come up with a bezel-less 9" or 10" tablet with more screen real estate than the iPad.

I've had a Transformer Prime for several months and have been enjoying the supposedly unobtainable Android tablet experience that everyone is waiting for. It runs stock ICS and has a 10.1" screen, and I actually wish it had a bit more of a bezel. I really don't understand why people are ignoring the Transformer Prime. And the Transformer Infinity is coming out tomorrow, with a 1920x1200 screen, fixes to the Transform…

I will second this, I had an iPad, sold it, hot a transformer prime and it's pretty much the perfect device. I've never had a problem with it, it's powerful, Android is just great, I'm generally very very happy with it.
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