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Re: Want to book a Ryanair flight? Prepare for a face scan

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> I don’t think a lot of us in poor countries care to stop producing CO2 I’m not sure about the situation everywhere but China gouvernement seems to care more than most other countries, rich or not. They flew a commercial plane with SAF in September. I personally think SAF is a terrible idea but give them credits for willingness.

You are correct in part but I think not in whole, since I said "a lot of us" and I'm pretty sure people in China would continue driving ICE and flying if it was up to them, the changes are just imposed top-down. I'm glad when an authoritarian regime does something that ends up being good but 1) I still dislike the regime, and 2) I don't think that's something you can rely on. Plus I'm pretty sure (just like everyone…

Totally agree! I’m frightened by what’s coming next.

Re: Want to book a Ryanair flight? Prepare for a face scan

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And the hard-to-select second choice is: "or going to the check-in counter at the airport more than two hours before departure" https://noyb.eu/en/booking-ryanair-flight-through-online-tra...

No, that’s the second choice that noyb mentioned last year when announcing their complaint about the then-current version of Ryanair’s policy. In the new article which triggered this HN post, discussing Ryanair’s updated policy, the second option is sending Ryanair a handwritten signature and a copy of a government ID.

Ah, arguably worse for many situations. Last minute bookings as one example.

Re: Want to book a Ryanair flight? Prepare for a face scan

#73
post #34

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No. Most airlines allow you to manage your booking with your last name and PNR. Which is perfectly fine. You would usually only need an account for two things: the loyalty/miles program, and having your details autofilled next time you book.

I remember the good old day when you could just walk up and buy a paper ticket, and that was all you needed to board the plane. They'd ask for your name, but you could give them any name, they didn't care. I realize that we're a long way from that world now, and we could never go back to it, but it sure was nice.

That's how train tickets still work in Europe, I was kinda surprised and impressed. They don't check IDs at all, you just show a QR code.

In Russia where I'm from you need to show an ID to buy a long-distance train ticket and then again when you board the train. I was told that scalping was rampant before this was introduced which is totally believable. Which begs the question, how do European railway operators prevent it without requiring IDs?

Re: Want to book a Ryanair flight? Prepare for a face scan

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The whole budget airline market is a pile of scams. Try booking on one of RA's cheapest flight offers, and you'll find that there are things you can't not book, like a seat on the actual flight(s)!, for which there is no zero cost option. There are zero-cost options for those things on the other price-points, but they remove this to try make the cheapest options look cheaper than the competition even thought they act…

I'm still waiting for them to charge for the clothes you wear as carry-on luggage.

Re: Want to book a Ryanair flight? Prepare for a face scan

#75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don’t think a lot of us in poor countries care to stop producing CO2 I’m not sure about the situation everywhere but China gouvernement seems to care more than most other countries, rich or not. They flew a commercial plane with SAF in September. I personally think SAF is a terrible idea but give them credits for willingness.

Curious: Why is SAF a terrible idea? I don't think we're going to be able to electrify long-distance flights any time soon, and SAF seems like the most sensible solution that's actually available.

SAF production is in direct competition against food production for water and space. They also generate a lot of CO2e because moving stuff long distance and/or via air require a lot of energy. SAF didn’t change anything here. I’m sure the claimed 85% CO2 reduction can be "proved" by analyzing choosen aspect while ignoring others. I really trust the willingness of the executives at work but understand they’re biased to continue A.business B.lifestyle. Most executives are over optimistic of what they’re doing because that’s a good think for their business. I don’t blame.

Re: Want to book a Ryanair flight? Prepare for a face scan

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post #24

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The idea is to abide by the letter of the law, while making it far too inconvenient for anyone to actually do it. A bit like Apple and their iPhone battery replacement kits.

What about the apple battery kits?

https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/21/23079058/apple-self-servi...

Re: Want to book a Ryanair flight? Prepare for a face scan

#77
post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember the good old day when you could just walk up and buy a paper ticket, and that was all you needed to board the plane. They'd ask for your name, but you could give them any name, they didn't care. I realize that we're a long way from that world now, and we could never go back to it, but it sure was nice.

That's how train tickets still work in Europe, I was kinda surprised and impressed. They don't check IDs at all, you just show a QR code. In Russia where I'm from you need to show an ID to buy a long-distance train ticket and then again when you board the train. I was told that scalping was rampant before this was introduced which is totally believable. Which begs the question, how do European railway operators preve…

I personally witnessed in Deutsche Bahn that passenger ticket was invalidated because he failed to show physical payment card he used to purchase the ticket online. That's why I started to buy physical tickets at the counter which is another kind of horror story.

Re: Want to book a Ryanair flight? Prepare for a face scan

#78
post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember the good old day when you could just walk up and buy a paper ticket, and that was all you needed to board the plane. They'd ask for your name, but you could give them any name, they didn't care. I realize that we're a long way from that world now, and we could never go back to it, but it sure was nice.

That's how train tickets still work in Europe, I was kinda surprised and impressed. They don't check IDs at all, you just show a QR code. In Russia where I'm from you need to show an ID to buy a long-distance train ticket and then again when you board the train. I was told that scalping was rampant before this was introduced which is totally believable. Which begs the question, how do European railway operators preve…

They do in Spain, and the make you line up to scan your luggage.

Re: Want to book a Ryanair flight? Prepare for a face scan

#79

The whole budget airline market is a pile of scams. Try booking on one of RA's cheapest flight offers, and you'll find that there are things you can't not book, like a seat on the actual flight(s)!, for which there is no zero cost option. There are zero-cost options for those things on the other price-points, but they remove this to try make the cheapest options look cheaper than the competition even thought they act…

I'm still waiting for them to charge for the clothes you wear as carry-on luggage.

Uhm, wear-on clothes?

Re: Want to book a Ryanair flight? Prepare for a face scan

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post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's how train tickets still work in Europe, I was kinda surprised and impressed. They don't check IDs at all, you just show a QR code. In Russia where I'm from you need to show an ID to buy a long-distance train ticket and then again when you board the train. I was told that scalping was rampant before this was introduced which is totally believable. Which begs the question, how do European railway operators preve…

I personally witnessed in Deutsche Bahn that passenger ticket was invalidated because he failed to show physical payment card he used to purchase the ticket online. That's why I started to buy physical tickets at the counter which is another kind of horror story.

Interesting. The only time I traveled on a Deutsche Bahn train, it was delayed 20 minutes, and they scanned my ticket off my laptop screen while I was already on the train, without saying a word :D
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