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Re: GitHub Copilot is now available for free

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If anyone is looking for a free/local alternative Continue + Ollama is acceptable. If you're just doing run of the mill programming it will work well out of the box. I'm glad it's open source so I was able to fix most of the issues I had with it and now my copy is in a great place. The documentation is in places many versions behind the actual code so it can be tough to figure out how to set things up when you're ven…

Tried a few models and was extremely disappointed by how dumb the completions are. Basically useless. What local ollama-available models do you recommend?

Have you tried Qwen 2.5 coder? I've only done very little testing, but it seemed to work pretty well. I used the 14B version.

https://ollama.com/library/qwen2.5-coder

Re: GitHub Copilot is now available for free

#73
post #5

I ditched Copilot for Cursor and never looked back. Cursor might be the only other AI product with product market fit than ChatGPT, it's that good

Unfortunately for me in enterprise it was impossible to convince them to allow us to use cursor since they're not well known like GitHub/Microsoft so they're afraid of what they'd do with our data. We are allowed Copilot and Chatgpt because of an enterprise contract with each. Luckily copilot has been improving but there definitely was a while where it felt way behind the jumps other products have had in the past yea…

... and they aren't concerned with what microsoft is doing with it?

Re: GitHub Copilot is now available for free

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post #62

Is there any solution that is 1- fully local 2- open source 3- fast on CPU only 4- provide reasonable good results for smart auto complete ? I don't want my work to depend on proprietary or even worse, online, software. We (software engineer) got lucky that all the good tools are free software and I feel we have a collective interest in making sure it stays that way (unless we want to be like farmers having to pay Mo…

> 3- fast on CPU only

Unless you've got a CPU with AI-specific accelerators and unified memory, I doubt you're going to find that.

I can't imagine any model under 7B parameters is useful, and even with dual-channel DDR5-6400 RAM (Which I think is 102 GB/s?) and 8-bit quantization, you could only generate 15 tokens/sec, and that's assuming your CPU can actually process that fast. Your memory bandwidth could easily be the bottleneck.

EDIT: If I have something wrong, I'd rather be corrected so I'm not spreading incorrect information, rather than being silently downvoted.

Re: GitHub Copilot is now available for free

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Are there any local models that provide only very limited knowledge, e.g. autocomplete and chat for single programming language? Or is my thinking, that such limited model would be smaller and work faster even on CPU, is incorrect?

Re: GitHub Copilot is now available for free

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post #26

I use supermaven and cline with my own API key, a setup superior to cursor imo. Tried to go back to gh copilot yesterday but couldn't bear it for a full workday, and reverted to my previous arrangement.

This looks really interesting, cursor has been way better than copilot for me but supermaven looks great. I went down the rabbit hole with: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLQuBSuzu2w&t=661s

Your setup sounds interesting. What sort of API key do you use?

Re: GitHub Copilot is now available for free

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post #28

I feel like this free plan is just enough to get someone hooked and require them to upgrade to paid. Like, imagine GPS navigation wasn't widespread and there was a paid service that gave you 20 free trips. Eventually your normal navigation skills would atrophy and you'd be obliged to purchase.

This, but _every single thing we rely on_.

Real AI is definitely a rubicon.

Re: GitHub Copilot is now available for free

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately for me in enterprise it was impossible to convince them to allow us to use cursor since they're not well known like GitHub/Microsoft so they're afraid of what they'd do with our data. We are allowed Copilot and Chatgpt because of an enterprise contract with each. Luckily copilot has been improving but there definitely was a while where it felt way behind the jumps other products have had in the past yea…

... and they aren't concerned with what microsoft is doing with it?

Microsoft is a monopoly and they've done everything they can to scare people about AI.

Re: GitHub Copilot is now available for free

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post #15

Microsoft (unsurprisingly) has won the race to zero. We have had them 'embrace' the wider developer and open-source ecosystem by buying GitHub. Then they have 'extended' this with partnerships and deep developer integrations in VSCode and exclusive partnerships with OpenAI which in the background was used to build the best tools on the Microsoft platform with added enhancements and extensions. Now in the new intellig…

I think you're ignoring the part where a MBA shows up, figures they have a valuable monopoly and starts it's extortion racket.

Realize: most of the digital ecosystem runs on whales, and thats who businesses go after. As long as wealth inequality thrives, that's the enshittification cycle.

Re: GitHub Copilot is now available for free

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately for me in enterprise it was impossible to convince them to allow us to use cursor since they're not well known like GitHub/Microsoft so they're afraid of what they'd do with our data. We are allowed Copilot and Chatgpt because of an enterprise contract with each. Luckily copilot has been improving but there definitely was a while where it felt way behind the jumps other products have had in the past yea…

... and they aren't concerned with what microsoft is doing with it?

Part of the hangup is that startups are shit at dealing with enterprise privacy contracts, whereas Microsoft probably has a whole department for that.

A product can work however it works, good or bad, but if you can't wrap contractual guarantees around it that are palatable to your enterprise customers, you're not going to get enterprise sales.

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