When I was 14 or so I took a long bus ride downtown to buy The Wall on vinyl. The ride back home was torture, gazing at that beautiful art work and not being able to listen.
Pink Floyd's 'The Wall': A Complete Analysis
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#72I love Pink Floyd and The Wall, though I think it works better with visuals than a standalone album. It's a shame they were unhappy with their own footage of the few stage shows they performed of The Wall. My dad saw the New York show, for which I'll forever be jealous. If you're a casual PF fan, I'd recommend two overlooked albums of the 70's - Meddle and Animals. Meddle is probably the first album to sound like wha…
Not sure I'd call Animals overlooked. It top-3's pretty much everyone's PF album rankings. Yes, DSOTM gets a lot of attention, but Animals is a well-recognized amazing album.
I think with the “casual” qualifier it’s accurate. I used to listen to a couple of radio stations when commuting in the 90s and 2000s - DSOTM and The Wall were staples (the former even got a full album play when they were doing a weekend top album event) but I can’t ever recall hearing anything from Animals on a mainstream station.
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#73I was in 8th grade when this came out and it was like catnip for angst-y teens. Our music teacher actually went over the lyrics of Another Brick In the Wall (Part 2) line-by-line with our class. He was not a fan. He tried to explain how wrong-headed each and every line was. Needless to say, he didn't win any hearts and minds, but we did appreciate listening to PF in music class. Bear in mind, this guy also paddled th…
I got paddled by my school before by a wannabe dictator administrator, that guy ended up going to jail for literally breaking some kid's ass.
Obviously The Wall resonated well with me :)
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#74I love the coments, everybody is riffing on varios pink floydian experiences and nobody has read the article just the title of the article is way way out there, like what kind of mad heavy drugs do you have to take to go so far as to build a web site devoted to ,oooooooooooo, wow, mang, like, did you get the total asomosity of that mang, toadaly awsome, the complete analyis, complete with 2 sheets of blotter, a car w…
For someone so willing to criticize the interests and hobbies of others, your spelling and grammar need a lot of work.
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#75I love Pink Floyd and The Wall, though I think it works better with visuals than a standalone album. It's a shame they were unhappy with their own footage of the few stage shows they performed of The Wall. My dad saw the New York show, for which I'll forever be jealous. If you're a casual PF fan, I'd recommend two overlooked albums of the 70's - Meddle and Animals. Meddle is probably the first album to sound like wha…
> I'd recommend two overlooked albums of the 70's - Meddle and Animals. I'd even throw Obscured by Clouds in there, which has some straight up rock jams as well as the more moody sound that became typical later.
>Obscured by Clouds
In their own way as an art band that's not-yet-popular-and-nobody-knows-if-they-ever-will-be, they were still following in the footsteps of the Beatles anyway with this early movie soundtrack. Too bad they weren't the stars of the movie.
There was also a movie called Zabriskie Point where they did some work on the soundtrack of that.
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#76// Did read the article.
Try Roger Waters' “The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking”, the album that nearly was instead of The Wall.
From Wikipedia:
In July 1978, Waters presented the concepts and played demos of The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking as well as what was then titled Bricks in the Wall, which became The Wall, to his bandmates in Pink Floyd, asking them to decide which should be a group album, and which should be his solo album. After a long debate, they decided that they preferred the concept of Bricks in the Wall, even though their manager at the time, Steve O'Rourke, thought that Pros and Cons was a better-sounding concept, and David Gilmour deemed Pros and Cons stronger musically.
The entire story is framed in real time as a fitful dream taking place in the early morning hours of 4:30:18 am to 5:12:32 am on an unspecified day. ...
Eric Clapton plays lead guitar, David Sandborn sax, and Michael Kamen piano (plus his orchestra).
It's worth the time, if for no other reason than to see if your experience is the same as Rolling Stone's:
Roger Waters' first official solo album will be of sustained interest mainly to postanalytic Pink Floyd fetishists and other highly evolved neurotics who persist in seeking spiritual significance amid the flotsam of English art rock. I can't imagine that anyone else will sit more than once through this strangely static, faintly hideous record, on which Waters' customary bile is, for the first time, diluted with musical bilge.
No "highly evolved neurotics" here, of course.
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#77I love Pink Floyd and The Wall, though I think it works better with visuals than a standalone album. It's a shame they were unhappy with their own footage of the few stage shows they performed of The Wall. My dad saw the New York show, for which I'll forever be jealous. If you're a casual PF fan, I'd recommend two overlooked albums of the 70's - Meddle and Animals. Meddle is probably the first album to sound like wha…
Echoes , which is on Meddle, is one of my favourite tracks of all time. It's an incredible sonic journey through all kinds of territory, and I find myself rejuvenated after having listened to it.
This was the year that Roland became a guitar effects company but "nobody" knew it yet.
Of course Boss pedals wouldn't appear for years, but the Roland Space Echo was a little portable accessory tape echo effect that got them started in this direction and made it all possible.
I eventually got one and by the time it needed restoration in the 1990's the internet was already out and it only took a couple years before the electronic schematic showed up by pure luck one day.
I went over the whole thing in detail, I knew there were input impedance mismatches with many instruments from the way it acted, but it still sounded cool and people always loved it anyway.
But when it came to the tape itself, I just couldn't believe it. With all good components and ideal spec operation, there was no way to get the tape bias anywhere near what it was supposed to be for any known tape formulations. By a long shot. It still worked but just barely, and that's what everybody had been enjoying from the beginning, no different than they were when new. With major modification to the bias circuit, it's way better than new after that.
Turns out the high-tech Japanese electronics outfit built its first momentum toward becoming the biggest guitar effects company starting with a tape echo unit, when the engineering was so far off it could only be that nobody involved knew what they should have known about tape bias at all. One of the critical things that all studios and especially audio enginers kept up with since all they had was tape and it was everywhere.
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#78I love Pink Floyd and The Wall, though I think it works better with visuals than a standalone album. It's a shame they were unhappy with their own footage of the few stage shows they performed of The Wall. My dad saw the New York show, for which I'll forever be jealous. If you're a casual PF fan, I'd recommend two overlooked albums of the 70's - Meddle and Animals. Meddle is probably the first album to sound like wha…
Animals is also one of my favourites. Now, this may sound like blasphemy but I find Les Claypool's Frog Brigade's rendering of Animals even better than Pink Floyd's. Heavier, darker and incredibly visceral, whilst still being as faithful to the original as it could be. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n4Cc7lX4NI&list=PLiEEpOHWcm...
If we’re discussing Pink Floyd covers, I’d like to once again point people to Nightwish covering “High Hopes”.
No, it can’t replace the original - but taken on its own it’s frankly amazing.
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#79I love Pink Floyd and The Wall, though I think it works better with visuals than a standalone album. It's a shame they were unhappy with their own footage of the few stage shows they performed of The Wall. My dad saw the New York show, for which I'll forever be jealous. If you're a casual PF fan, I'd recommend two overlooked albums of the 70's - Meddle and Animals. Meddle is probably the first album to sound like wha…
One of my advisors saw Pink Floyd play Dark Side in its entirety in London in the 70s. I can't help bringing it up every time I see him.
I "guess" it's possible to write more about it than there probably were total scraps of paper that Waters ever wrote the actual lyrics on :)
Well, PF was a psychedelic art band but they were right up there with the Beatles, Stones, and Who when it comes to studio ability, and I'm sure some promoters and record companies could tell that money could be made somehow.
They just didn't know how for a number of years.
The leading pop musicians at the time had gotten popular before they were the least bit associated with psychedelics, Floyd didn't have that. The machine was in place but they were not nearly on board yet.
Remember, LSD was still quite legal when these British musicians started recording. PF was kind of associated with that before they ever had a chance to get popular though.
Regardless, in the years leading up to the festivals of which Woodstock is the most well-known, PF toured the US a bit. About each year, with record company support. Festivals were not a thing yet at all, in fact there was only a very small fraction of the number of live concerts there are now. We had about one per month (we were lucky in my town even though it was not a big city) when I was a young teenager and it was always about the same 20,000 students and young adults at every one. Regardless of genre it was always fun.
I never could have gotten my parents to drop us off until after I had won free tickets by calling in to the radio station. On a land line there were so many callers trying to win, you would usually get a busy signal. Plus the Touch-Tone telephones were still just a dream, and the pulse dialing spinner had a governed return spring. It was pretty slow, so you could not make that many repeat attempts before someone else had won. Hacked into that and made it spin back as fast as the phone line would tolerate.
PF never got any serious airplay and most people had never heard of them until Dark Side came out in 1973. I had already seen them 5 times before that. Had a driver's license by then and took other kids. It was the female vocals and saxophone that finally put them on top after they had gone along with all kinds of record company plans. From that point on what had been laid-back art concerts turned into crowded pop music events.
Basically for five full years people told me I was crazy and nobody was ever going to significantly play Pink Floyd on the radio :\
PF had always gone without an opening act, playing the first set of previous material only, and coming back after a long break to perform the new stuff. The people who had seen them before knew it was like this. But that first live appearance in 1973 after Dark Side had been all over the radio was nuts. About 90% of the fans had never heard of Pink Floyd until a few months earlier.
The band came out at 8:00 as usual, non-pretentiously in their t-shirts, no announcements, IIRC they opened with something from Obscured but surely over half the people didn't even realize it was PF playing already. There was absolutely nothing familiar to them for the whole set. There was a bit of rowdiness and the band had to calm the crowd somewhat at one point.
When they came back out to do the Dark Side of the Moon, it's been different than it was the hour before.
Ever since.
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I'd recommend two overlooked albums of the 70's - Meddle and Animals. I'd even throw Obscured by Clouds in there, which has some straight up rock jams as well as the more moody sound that became typical later.
>Obscured by Clouds In their own way as an art band that's not-yet-popular-and-nobody-knows-if-they-ever-will-be, they were still following in the footsteps of the Beatles anyway with this early movie soundtrack. Too bad they weren't the stars of the movie. There was also a movie called Zabriskie Point where they did some work on the soundtrack of that.
I really started listening to music as a teen because of the wall, but _obscured_ really hit me at an emotional level, years later, and has become one of my favorite albums. In particular “Childhood’s End” always gives me goosebumps / tears / a feeling of connectedness. (I would want that played as the last track for my funeral, if I were to have one, although I should probably require attendees have decent headphones!)