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Post by n4r9 »

voisin wrote: post #69
n4r9 wrote: post #64

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That doesn't necessarily imply that super low body fat is optimal.

I think we are speaking past each other due to definitions. I wouldn’t think “lean” is the same as “super low body fat”. I assumed the lean we were talking about was maybe 10-13%. Whereas super low would likely be in the sub-8%.

Maybe, but 13% is still well under what I would suspect is the bar for being correlated with negative health outcomes. Most sources seem to suggest that 18-20% is still a healthy level.

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Post by Mistletoe »

BadHumans wrote: post #22
Mistletoe wrote: post #15

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I don’t think you understand how down the rabbit hole this guy goes. > Bryan Johnson’s supplements list includes more than 100 compounds taken as powders, tablets, and capsules, designed to support different aspects of his health. This is an insane thing to do and I have delved deeply into supplements myself and it is stunning how hard it is to find evidence that any of them do anything beneficial long term. This mat…

Testosterone in the form of steroids and TRT? Not judging just curious.

Just trt, actually going too high >1000 feels awful to me.

Just fixing this world decline helps so much.

https://sci-hub.se/10.1016/j.euf.2020.02.006

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Post by unclad5968 »

missinglugnut wrote: post #60
unclad5968 wrote: post #54

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It's inappropriate in general to diagnose people with psych disorders based on their social media and public persona

I generally agree that we shouldn't armchair diagnose people, especially not for gossip's sake. But in this case Bryan is actively promoting a lifestyle which looks symptomatic of a disorder, so it's probably in the public interest to point that out. The post author did so in a thoughtful and respectful manner.

Exhibiting symptoms of a disorder is not the same as having a disorder which is why it's irresponsible and inappropriate to diagnose people based on their social media.

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Post by unclad5968 »

whateveracct wrote: post #63
unclad5968 wrote: post #54

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It's inappropriate in general to diagnose people with psych disorders based on their social media and public persona

eh eating disorders in particular have quite the social contagion. anorexia definitely spreads via social media.

Bryan clearly is not anorexic because he gained a bunch of weight/fat when his doctor told him he was at a dangerous weight. Someone suffering from anorexia is not going to increase their body fat by 5-10% on their doctors recommendation.

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Post by whateveracct »

unclad5968 wrote: post #74
whateveracct wrote: post #63

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eh eating disorders in particular have quite the social contagion. anorexia definitely spreads via social media.

Bryan clearly is not anorexic because he gained a bunch of weight/fat when his doctor told him he was at a dangerous weight. Someone suffering from anorexia is not going to increase their body fat by 5-10% on their doctors recommendation.

I'm not saying he's anorexic. I'm using it as an example of how eating disorders have a significant social contagion component to them.

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Post by xorbax »

drooby wrote: post #28
at-w wrote: post #5

>It seems that he is spending a lot of his time & effort on maintaining his hair (huge kudos for admitting that!). If his body was functioning like an 18-year old he should not need to do that. If Bryan really set back his true aging clock he probably would not be battling with ongoing hair loss (as he most likely did not battle hair loss 20 years prior), or at least it would stop (which does not seem to be the case)…

Biological aging is a fuzzy concept that we define relative to various social constructs and other objective markers compared to the general population. I don't see much issue with its usage in this context.

You could define it as "the degradation of cellular maintenance". Androgenic hair loss is more like a non universal signal of hormonal maturity, like pubic hair growth.

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Post by meiraleal »

mathieuh wrote: post #31
fy20 wrote: post #23

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It's interesting because there are medicines that can block DHT or reduce it's effectiveness, but they have other negative side-effects. It's almost like if you have this gene and are a healthy man, you should loose your hair - I wonder what the evolutionary mechanism of that is.

The mechanism of baldness is related to the mechanism of growing a beard isn’t it? For me personally I started going bald in my mid-20s, and since then as I lose hair off the top of my head it seems to reappear on my face. So perhaps it’s just a virility/experience signal. Maybe in the past the fact that someone had survived long enough to go bald or grow a big beard would signal that they had the skill or hardiness…

That's some real baldness confidence

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Post by tom_ »

dyauspitr wrote: post #33
tom_ wrote: post #13

Feels like a bit more body fat would suit him a lot better. The lean look is fine if you're under 25, but at some point you have to admit that it's over. > the way he looked while taking “TRT” looked nothing like a “testosterone replacement dose” but rather like a (mild?) steroid cycle This seems to be common with TRT takers, who tend to have the physique (or some slightly strange-looking approxmation thereof) of a m…

What is over? You should maintain a lean, muscular body for as long as you possibly can.

Indeed you should! All that's over is automatically looking good while you do it (or so I claim). Time to accept that you might actually look weird, even though you have the ideal body fat level for somebody 25 years younger. Maybe skip the shirtless pics. Or why not just let yourself get a bit (but not much!) fatter?

Anyway, I'm relying on my own eyes here, and you should do the same. Don't be afraid to let your eyes see that Johnson is rich enough to afford a team of people looking after him, and has the vital signs of a 20 year old. Meanwhile, I'm just some internet rando!

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Post by throaway2501 »

whamlastxmas wrote: post #67
throaway2501 wrote: post #46

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there’s a famous story about Wayne Gretzky’s (170 lb weight, 140 lb max bench) recuperative abilities being so powerful that the Oilers’ trainers thought the testing machine was broken.

I don’t understand including the bench number. It’s really low and seems unlikely it was that low?

that was his max recorded bench with the team.

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Post by iamleppert »

It's not what he's doing that bothers me. It's the desire to blast it out to everyone and be so public about his experiments with an air of scientific advice and authority. What he's doing is not science or scientific in the slightest. Just because you use scientific tests and devices and such doesn't mean you're doing science, or doing anyone (including yourself) any good.

It sends the message to people, if you're rich, you can make up your own rules. Well, life doesn't work that way as he is soon to find out. If there is one thing I have seen in my days of living on this earth is that life loves irony.

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