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Re: Buy Nothing Day

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> we’re so cooked What does this mean in this context?

It means, "were fucked." Toast. Were done for. Stick a fork in us.

But like, how are we fucked? What has cooked us and what are the effects of the cooking, I guess

Re: Buy Nothing Day

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Serious question: what would be the impact to the economy, if, for one day, no-one spent any money, but did the equivalent amount of spending before or after (i.e. there was no change to the averages)?

Re: Buy Nothing Day

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In Japan too. Black Friday has become a meaningless global sales event.

Is it any worse than Singles Day?

It’s a lot bigger than Singles Day. In Germany if you work in e-commerce it’s the busiest time of the year.

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Black Friday is one of those imported things we could do without. Did you know shops in the Netherlands are now massively participating in Black Friday? We didn't even have this 'event' ten years ago. Because of our Sinterklaas gift giving event on 5 December people would have been out shopping for presents in any case (like Xmas presents, just earlier and with the OG Santa instead of the Coca Cola dude), so in terms…

What happens in America, doesn't stay in America. Say no to drugs, say not to America(n cultural exports).

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post #69

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Except when it's not. Like CSAM or McMansions or lifted trucks.

One of those things is not like the others?

I was trying to point out an absolute, like consumption always being good, doesn't hold with widely different examples. After all, there is nuance when things are consumed.

Perhaps I should have phrased it differently.

Re: Buy Nothing Day

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post #69

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One of those things is not like the others?

I was trying to point out an absolute, like consumption always being good, doesn't hold with widely different examples. After all, there is nuance when things are consumed. Perhaps I should have phrased it differently.

Sure; "consumption" in this sense almost always means buying legal goods and services. Some economics would say that someone buying something is by definition proof that it is a beneficial transaction. I wouldn't go that far personally.

Seems like you might be approaching this from a different perspective / this is a confusion over the mutual meaning of words. But the GP is basically a slogan or an axiom, not worthy of serious rebuttal.

Re: Buy Nothing Day

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The problem with consumerism is a function of money and capitalism, in a perfect world where everything is made 100% free and fair and with no environmental impact the consumption behavior would be the same (or even worse). Would we still consider it a problem then? In Star Trek there is no money and you can replicate whatever you need/want. Is that utopia or are we still doing something wrong?

It would at least be significantly less of a problem, if items purchased didn’t have such negative externalities as part of their production. I don’t see why a culture significantly less prone to desiring items that aren’t actually all that beneficial, would be incompatible with capitalism?

Capitalism is competition of the elite class based on their ability to sell things. They are incentivized to make people buy more things. A society where the elite class wants to make the lower classes buy more things will never be a society where the lower classes buy few things.
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