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Ambulance hits cyclist, rushes him to hospital, then sticks him with $1,800 bill

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#71
Kudos for the innovative approach to streamlining the customer acquisition funnel!

Now if we could only make this work using gig app contractors, maybe explore a collab with Uber… this is so fire!

I think I figured out a way to make this scale and put a moat around it. See y’all at my series A!

Re: Ambulance hits cyclist, rushes him to hospital, then sticks him with $1,800 bill

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"An Oregon cyclist who was struck by an ambulance that made a right turn into him — fracturing his nose and leaving him with scrapes and other injuries across his body — has filed a $997,000 lawsuit against the ambulance provider after it scooped him up, drove him to the hospital and then billed him for the service, according to the suit." $47K for current medical costs, $50K for expected future medical costs, and $9…

Typically judge rejects the huge sums, and he gets more reasonable amount, if even fair. E.g. judge might award him only proven costs with receipts, and reject all the pain-and-suffering.

> Typically judge rejects the huge sums, and he gets more reasonable amount

Could almost get yourself a cozy little apartment and all it would take is being run over by an ambulance

Re: Ambulance hits cyclist, rushes him to hospital, then sticks him with $1,800 bill

#73
post #33

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>It's not pedantry when it's the root of the problem. How is this any different than "guns don't kill people, people kill people?"

In this analogy, the bicycle is not the gun. The F-250 extended cab is.

Yup, bikes don't kill people, people in cars kill everyone around them.

Re: Ambulance hits cyclist, rushes him to hospital, then sticks him with $1,800 bill

#74
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post #33

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>It's not pedantry when it's the root of the problem. How is this any different than "guns don't kill people, people kill people?"

> How is this any different than "guns don't kill people, people kill people?" In terms of guns, the reality is that people with guns kill people. An intent to kill plus an instrument designed to do so easily is often a lethal combination. People don't just kill each other more often when they have access to a firearms, they are also far more likely to kill themselves. [1] The risk to cyclists and other road users al…

> People don't just kill each other more often when they have access to a firearms, they are also far more likely to kill themselves. [1]

Your footnote doesn't support the first statement you made which I don't think is accurate, at least not to a significant degree.

Re: Ambulance hits cyclist, rushes him to hospital, then sticks him with $1,800 bill

#75
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You could say that jumping out of a plane without a parachute isn't dangerous, it's the ground that's dangerous. Cyclists make mistakes, make bad judgments, take big risks, just like car drivers. They are human too. You could say cyclists have a bigger incentive to avoid problems, but no driver I know wants to hit someone and injure them, and cyclists I know become inured to the risks after riding for years without i…

I've been urban biking for years. It's no doubt dangerous. I don't think you become complacent like you do when when driving. You are pretty aware that these heavy fast moving vehicles are on the same road as you. Part of my commute was on a path off the roads, it was nice. I always leave plenty of time when riding so im not rushing. even when there are separate lanes it's important to stay alert for cars turning ont…

> I've been urban biking for years. It's no doubt dangerous. I don't think you become complacent like you do when when driving.

Also: motorcycling.

Generally recommended to always assume you're invisible. There's even an acronym for it: SMIDSY, Sorry mate, I didn't see you.

* https://www.brm.co.nz/s-m-i-d-s-y-road-craft/

* https://www.webbikeworld.com/scientific-studies-explain-smid...

Re: Ambulance hits cyclist, rushes him to hospital, then sticks him with $1,800 bill

#76
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>It's not pedantry when it's the root of the problem. How is this any different than "guns don't kill people, people kill people?"

Because whether it's people pulling the trigger or the gun itself, both are the direct source of harm. Bicycles are not the source of harm, cars are. The analogous argument one way would be quibbling over whether it's the driver or the car. The analogous argument the other would be saying it's the shooting victims fault for being in a place where they are likely to get shot (bad neighborhood, in a position to surpris…

Also, more pointedly, guns [EDIT: Nope!] and cars are among the top causes of accidental death in America [1].

[1] https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/all-injuries/deaths-by-demograph...

Re: Ambulance hits cyclist, rushes him to hospital, then sticks him with $1,800 bill

#77
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A kid I knew in high school was knocked off his bike by an ambulance. He'd have come out of the incident better if the ambulance hadn't backed up to see what happened, for it backed over his legs. The city settled with him for what sounded like a lot of money in 1971, but not so much ten years later.

How horrible!

Re: Ambulance hits cyclist, rushes him to hospital, then sticks him with $1,800 bill

#79
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Self driving cars are amazing in SF. I cycle there I feel much safer when there’s a self driving car behind me. Waymos, zooxes and cruises never accelerate hard to suddenly cut a turn in front of me rather than waiting behind me to turn across the cycle lane. They never get angry when there is no cycle lane and I’m forced to take up a full lane for a stretch. They have cold machine patience and attitude and to get aw…

A waymo hit a cyclist in San Francisco a few months ago, by failing to anticipate that there may be traffic behind a turning truck and accelerating into it. https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/7/24065063/waymo-driverless-...

Just noting that the bicyclist is fully at fault for trying to jump the queue at a 4 way stop, and it sounds like they were going in a different direction than the turning truck as well. Hard to pin that one on Waymo, though I do feel like Waymo cars tend to drive a bit "city aggressive" at times, like asserting their right of way, sticking close to the car in front, etc.
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