Added to my list, very nice.
One thing I like about google translate that nether deepl or this do is tell me how to say the word. I mainly use it to add a reading hint to an otherwise opaque japanese title in a database.
Kagi Translate
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#72Disclaimer: I am already a Kagi customer. At least for Afrikaans I'm not impressed here. There are some inaccuracies, like "varktone" becoming "pork rinds" instead of "pig toes" and also some censorship ("jou ma se poes" does NOT mean "play with my cat"!). Comparing directly against Google Translate, Google nails everything I threw at it. I didn't see any option to provide feedback, suggested translations, etc, but I…
"The game is my poem" when back-translated from the Turkish translation, "oyun benim şiirimdir". And there's censorship too when doing EN-TR for a few other profanities I tested. When you add another particular word to the sentence, it outputs "play with my cat, dad".
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#73Kagi develops lots of features, but they seem to often be quarter-baked. Maps for example is basically unusable and has been for a while. (at least in Germany) Trying to search for an address often leads Kagi maps to go to a different random address. Still love the search, but Id love for Kagi to concentrate on one thing at a time.
We are focusing most our resources on search (which I hope you can agree, we are doing a pretty good job at). And it turns out search is not enough and you need other things - like maps (or a browser, because some browsers will not let you change search engine and our paid users can not use the service). Both are also incredibly hard to do right. If it appears quarter-baked (and I am first to say that we can and will…
You do not need your own browser. Keep Firefox alive.
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
It varies depending on the language but I find GPT4o to be good into knowing the context and go sometimes with the intent not just the grammar and rules of the language. But for most cases it is an overkill and you still have the chance of hallucination (although it has less occurrence chances in these use cases) This is of course based on my experience using it between Arabic, English and French which is among the 5…
Have you compared gpt-4o to Kagi? They might actually be the same thing in some cases.
Not yet, I just knew about Kagi translate now.
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#75Kagi develops lots of features, but they seem to often be quarter-baked. Maps for example is basically unusable and has been for a while. (at least in Germany) Trying to search for an address often leads Kagi maps to go to a different random address. Still love the search, but Id love for Kagi to concentrate on one thing at a time.
We are focusing most our resources on search (which I hope you can agree, we are doing a pretty good job at). And it turns out search is not enough and you need other things - like maps (or a browser, because some browsers will not let you change search engine and our paid users can not use the service). Both are also incredibly hard to do right. If it appears quarter-baked (and I am first to say that we can and will…
I absolutely did not mean to imply that you did not want to improve the products.
I did assume that you are missing the resources for the many products you develop.
Its just very sad to show/recommend Kagi to people and then have them(or me) run into so many bugs, and sometimes product-breaking bugs. (such as Maps that I mentioned. because I would love to use Kagi maps, but its so broken that I just cant)
Would love to travel 10 years into the future of Kagi's roadmap.
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
We are focusing most our resources on search (which I hope you can agree, we are doing a pretty good job at). And it turns out search is not enough and you need other things - like maps (or a browser, because some browsers will not let you change search engine and our paid users can not use the service). Both are also incredibly hard to do right. If it appears quarter-baked (and I am first to say that we can and will…
You do not need your own browser. Keep Firefox alive.
I beg to differ. The web does not need more ad-supported browsers. Orion is built for the users and paid for by the users.
It stands against all that is wrong with the web today - advertisers and third parties tracking at every step - perhaps like Firefox used to do 15-20 years ago.
We need more of Orion today, and more than ever.
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#77I can't use it because I'm not classified as "human" by a computer. There is no captcha that I could get wrong, just a checkbox that probably uses a black box model to classify me automatically Was curious after the post claimed that the quality is better than Google and DeepL, but the current top comment showed translations from Afrikaans that it got wrong but I could understand as a Dutch person who doesn't even sp…
Interesting. Never had such an issue with Google. How do they do it?
By not having a puzzle-less/unsolvable captcha, or what do you mean?
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#78I find it useless without an option to add context to the text I want to translate.
What do you mean? Does any other translator have such a separate field that you could point to, or could you explain what you're missing? When I want to give DeepL context, I just write it in the translation field (also, because it's exceptionally bad at single word translations, I do it even if the word should be unambiguous), so not type in "Katze" but "die Katze schnurrt" (the cat purrs). Is that the kind of thing…
Of pre-LLM major online translators, Bing is the only one I've noticed that has a dropdown that offers standard/casual/formal, and produces multiple outputs if it detects masculine/feminine differences.
For LLM-based translators, it usually works if you add relevant details in parentheses.
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#79I can't use it because I'm not classified as "human" by a computer. There is no captcha that I could get wrong, just a checkbox that probably uses a black box model to classify me automatically Was curious after the post claimed that the quality is better than Google and DeepL, but the current top comment showed translations from Afrikaans that it got wrong but I could understand as a Dutch person who doesn't even sp…
I had tons of issues with these Cloudflare checkboxes. I finally figured out it was because I use this extension [1] that disables HTML5 autoplay. I assume Cloudflare is doing some kind of thing where they verify that the client can playback media, as they assume that headless browsers or crawlers won't have that capability [1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/disable-autop...
which is hilarious because I bypass all cloudflare turnstiles with 20 lines of python and 2captcha API.
It only defeats users.
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#80very impressed with how well it handles Romanized Arabic