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Re: China sanctions US drone maker Skydio

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Can't say that I feel bad for them. Skydio builds inferior drones and sells them at exorbitant prices. Instead of innovating, they opt to lobby and ban the competition (DJI and Autel).

This is not atypical–however, the more you dig into the topic, the more shady they get. Worthwhile watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Cb-Zv783yQ

Re: China sanctions US drone maker Skydio

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Yeah of course, because China is sanctioning them because they are making it harder for the PROC to invade and annex another free country.

The USA invaded and annexed lots of free countries. Invading and annexing isn't some weird thing no one usually does. Taiwan is the product of a recent civil war.

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Re: China sanctions US drone maker Skydio

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By state-supporting our own battery makers? Or does the Chinese government have more money than we do?

According to the government, the US has infinite amounts of money because they can always print more...

..... and there is almost insatiable global demand for US dollars.

Re: China sanctions US drone maker Skydio

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Sanction aside, this action is a wake-up call for all US based companies operating in geopolitically sensitive industries that they absolutely need to diversify their supply chain away from China. And in terms of the sanction itself, it’s definitely a reasonable response by China, given the fact that DJI is heavily sanctioned by the US government.

The "sanctions" on DJI are limited to US federal agencies being banned from buying DJI drones. China's move however will be a killing blow to Skydio because China has most likely correctly calculated that US/Western anti-mining sentiments makes it impossible to manufacture batteries. https://dronelife.com/2024/09/10/house-passes-countering-ccp...

Ahhh, so that's why all the crazies have been talking about lithium. They've been activated by the agitprop.

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The USA invaded and annexed lots of free countries. Invading and annexing isn't some weird thing no one usually does. Taiwan is the product of a recent civil war.

Would you have argued that the American civil war was recent in 1940?

The Chinese civil war never officially ended. There was no agreement whatsoever, and the ROC never declared itself as separate, etc. Taiwan is simply a province within the ROC, and the ROC still consists of the mainland. That's what the ROC constitution states.

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I was under the impression there was a large demographic of Chinese who would buy Huawei phones over iPhones because they were Chinese and not American, despite the chip being being a few generations behind an iPhone. Meaning, there are people in China who are nationalistic, as there are in America. And these have enough of a Chinese over American view they would purchase an arguably worse product for their views. As…

Meaning, there are people in China who are nationalistic, as there are in America. And these have enough of a Chinese over American view they would purchase an arguably worse product for their views. Of course there are nationalists in China. I didn't argue against that. As for cultural exports, I think America just dominates the world in that regard. If you want to use that as a comparison China would have to have e…

>The data is just me walking on any street in Shenzhen and almost never smelling any gasoline or feel the heat from cars.

If we're basing our arguments on opinions then I'm not sure there's any value in this discussion for me.

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Is this actually true? From what Ive seen and read, the US is constantly demonized in the Chinese media.

The fact that people actually ask this question, shows how people in the west (assuming you are from there) only see China through mainstream media. No offense to you in particular. In China, if you walk around the street in any city, you can see many American brands such as McDonalds, KFC, Starbucks, Microsoft, Apple. American logos are proudly displayed. If you walk into a cafe, you will more often than not, hear A…

I agree with most of what you said (especially the safety part). But in my experience anti-US sentiment is a part of anti-outsider skepticism more broadly. And there’s a justifiable history to it, with a century of humiliation and occupation that the US was a part of (although less than Japan/UK).

Basically they see anti-China sanctions as a continuation of foreign bullying.

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The fact that people actually ask this question, shows how people in the west (assuming you are from there) only see China through mainstream media. No offense to you in particular. In China, if you walk around the street in any city, you can see many American brands such as McDonalds, KFC, Starbucks, Microsoft, Apple. American logos are proudly displayed. If you walk into a cafe, you will more often than not, hear A…

>It's extremely safe for foreigners. I wonder if the parents of the Japanese boy stabbed on the way to school last month would agree? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Shenzhen_stabbing

That was notable because of how unusual it was. Chinese cities are extremely safe, generally speaking.

In the West we have a general consensus that any encroachment on freedom in the name of safety isn’t worth the trade. People even go so far as to claim that those who would choose safety don’t deserve it, which I find completely uncalled for and unnecessarily strident. A lot of Asian countries (China, Japan, Singapore) have no such problem, and view the US as a generally unsafe country.

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DJI has extremely light sanctions. I can still buy them in the stores in the US. If they were heavily sanctioned by the government, this would not be possible.

> DJI has extremely light sanctions ...at the moment. The House has passed a bill that would ban the sale of most models of their drones. The bill is currently in committee in the Senate.

house passes all kinds of bills which never happen.

Re: China sanctions US drone maker Skydio

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The "sanctions" on DJI are limited to US federal agencies being banned from buying DJI drones. China's move however will be a killing blow to Skydio because China has most likely correctly calculated that US/Western anti-mining sentiments makes it impossible to manufacture batteries. https://dronelife.com/2024/09/10/house-passes-countering-ccp...

The bigger question is what will the US do if China decides to take the same action wrt EV batteries?

On one hand, e.g. Tesla make their batteries on the US soil, in Nevada. OTOH they don't make the batteries from the US soil, with more than half of the lithium coming from China.

I'd expect a Tesla Gigamine then, somewhere near the recently discovered giant lithium deposit in Arkansas. Drones could use some of that, too.

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