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Re: Thunderbird for Android Now Available

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1) You can see replies/sent messages in Conversation/Threaded view (I do this). Unfortunately I don't recall exactly how I set this up, but this might get you there: https://www.reddit.com/r/Thunderbird/comments/tvb02t/show_re... 2) Expression Search NG might solve your search issues: https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-us/thunderbird/addon/expre...

On your #1 issue: it’s a well-known and acknowledged problem. Basically, the current Thunderbird doesn’t have unique message IDs across folders, which causes issues when displaying messages from different folders in threaded view. One of the common workarounds involves making copies of Sent messages in other folders like INBOX. There’s a major internal message storage rework project happening in Thunderbird, which sh…

That is weird, because it works for me and I've never noticed, that it didn't worked in the past. (Thunderbird 115.5.0 on Debian)

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I use Fastmail, and have found their Android app to be functional, but lackluster (no offline access being one of my biggest gripes). I hadn't used Thunderbird on the desktop in a good 15-20 years, so I figured I'd give this a try. It is very snappy (unlike how I remember desktop Thunderbird all those years ago), and seems to work well so far, though it's a little bare-bones feature-wise. One thing that is unfortunat…

> Fastmail also has different actions for marking as spam and reporting phishing; I'm not sure how effective the latter is, but of course Thunderbird doesn't support it, as presumably that's a Fastmail-proprietary thing. I don't think there's anything proprietary going on, so I did a quick search. Fastmail supports JMAP [0], and JMAP [1] supports setting special keywords [2] for a message to mark it as spam of phishi…

Ah interesting. Looks like that's strangely specific to JMAP and not a generic mail header or something like that, so K-9 won't be able to do it, as it doesn't (yet) support JMAP.

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I use Fastmail, and have found their Android app to be functional, but lackluster (no offline access being one of my biggest gripes). I hadn't used Thunderbird on the desktop in a good 15-20 years, so I figured I'd give this a try. It is very snappy (unlike how I remember desktop Thunderbird all those years ago), and seems to work well so far, though it's a little bare-bones feature-wise. One thing that is unfortunat…

It's not surprising that this feels different than Thunderbird as it's a completely separate app with a separate background just being rebranded with Thunderbird identity. There's probably some effort to make them play nice together, but K-9's been around for ages (I think I've been using it for more than a decade).

Sure, I'm aware. I tried K-9 many many years ago but didn't really like it. Seems like it's more my style now (or my style has changed).

Re: Thunderbird for Android Now Available

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Right when there are better alternatives (fastmail, proton, etc). Another bonus-worthy move by Mozilla's CEO!

Thunderbird is an email client, not an email service. Fastmail and proton only allow you to connect to their service. Thunderbird can use any IMAP/POP + SMTP email service.

Yes, but they provide their own apps.

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I do not know how it is financed, but I would rather have them use these funds to fix desktop version first. Content advisory: longish rant ahead. I have 4 email accounts: 2 Gmail, 1 Outlook, and 1 ProtonMail. I also use Google Calendar and Outlook Calendar. The reason I switched to Thunderbird was to manage them all in one uniform UI instead of keeping 6 open tabs. I tried hard to love it, but after about 6 months,…

> For example, while focused on a folder, if I start a search, it doesn't automatically narrow it to that folder

Maybe I'm missing what you're trying to do, but doesn't Ctrl-Shift-k "search" (called filter) on a per-folder basis? Testing for myself, I can filter by the basics, including body, and have it filter on a my focused folder

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It's not surprising that this feels different than Thunderbird as it's a completely separate app with a separate background just being rebranded with Thunderbird identity. There's probably some effort to make them play nice together, but K-9's been around for ages (I think I've been using it for more than a decade).

Sure, I'm aware. I tried K-9 many many years ago but didn't really like it. Seems like it's more my style now (or my style has changed).

It had a visual overhaul a few years ago. Not something drastic but it was a very positive improvement.

Re: Thunderbird for Android Now Available

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Is there a reason why Mozilla haven't used their position and funding to just hoover up all the most successful open source projects to create a more cohesive ecosystem? Surely any addons - like uBlock Origin - which have massive usage should just be baked in to the browser by this point? The likes of Nextcloud and Mattermost would also be great additions in trying to create a true rival to Microsoft and Google's off…

> uBlock Origin - which have massive usage I'm guessing there are legal risk issues with this. While ad blocking flies under the radar as a mom/pop operation with guerilla marketing the offended parties turn a blind eye. Make it a feature of a "corporate" product, and they'll sue.

I think it’s more likely that the offended parties would stop financing you. IIRC Mozilla still makes most of its’ profit from Google integration.

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Sure, I'm aware. I tried K-9 many many years ago but didn't really like it. Seems like it's more my style now (or my style has changed).

It had a visual overhaul a few years ago. Not something drastic but it was a very positive improvement.

And very negative for the people that selected K9 precisely because of the peculiar UX. 5.600 has been the last good version for me. I still sideload it on every new Android device I buy.

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Why would Youtube, which makes money off ads, allow a web browser that blocks ads to access Youtube when they could just refuse to serve their user agent?

Because they don't want to get sued for monopolistic practices, I guess. Since the Goo owns Chrome and Youtube, Youtube blocking non-chrome user agents would be actionable. Even if they whitelisted Safari, that would still be actionable.

I don't believe a court would tell Google it has to provide a service for free.

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Why would Youtube, which makes money off ads, allow a web browser that blocks ads to access Youtube when they could just refuse to serve their user agent?

They currently allow Brave which does that. If a major website starting blocking user agents for any reason other than compatibility then all that would do is trigger (finally) the deprecation of user agents strings as browsers would all just pretend to be each other.

Brave and Vivaldi can probably get away with it because they're just a Chromium re-skin.

Firefox uses Gecko instead of Webkit. They can't change their user agent string.

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