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Smartphone buyers meh on AI, care more about battery life

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Post by Syonyk »

vvladymyrov wrote: post #62
tra3 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve got an appointment with Apple to replace the battery in my iPhone 13 mini. I would love the new features (especially the camera and sat comm) but I’m not willing to get a bigger form factor device.

Good luck. I’ve tried to replace battery in mine 12 mini last week - with no success. I had to leave my phone for 4 hours or several days (if they brake screen during battery replacement, they will wait for replacement phone to be shipped overnight). Also representative was convincing me to buy a new phone - saying that battery replacement won’t help much because new ios versions has features which high battery usage…

So do the swap yourself.

Part and kit: https://www.ifixit.com/products/iphone-12-mini-replacement-b...

Steps: https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iPhone+12+mini+Battery+Replacem...

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Post by ghaff »

Syonyk wrote: post #31
lopkeny12ko wrote: post #15

At this point I would pay a premium to have replaceable batteries again.

My Sonim XP3+ has a hard shell replaceable battery and lasts a week and a half on a charge. It's not even a very expensive device, it's under $150! ;) But it is a flip phone running Android Go with no apps... That said, I think the tradeoffs being made right now are probably the right ones. Apple's latest devices have gone to an electrically released sort of adhesive (versus the older pull-strip removeable adhesive,…

Getting someone to replace a battery every 4 or 5 years really isn’t onerous. And for iPhones the magnetic batteries that attach to the back are a pretty effective way to stretch battery life a bunch more hours if you need to.

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Post by iscrewyou »

dageshi wrote: post #34
brianshaler wrote: post #5

I'd rather have flagship specs in a smaller package. The smallest in the iPhone (SE) and Pixel ("A"?) lines are still too big and tend to have previous-gen specs

I've been hearing this sentiment for 10+ years, but it's been tried and each time it's tried it doesn't sell well enough.

It’s a package of devices Apple is selling. They sell under powered smaller screen macs. They sell iMacs. They sell small iPads. They sell smaller watches. Some of these just don’t sell as well as their other offerings.

They should sell small phones. Because the whole family will be in on the brand, features, and services. I’ve heard many family members and friends say that they won’t give up their older small phones because Apple no longer makes new ones.

The idea that they don’t sell well is not a good enough reason when you are trying to capture the whole market for not just hardware but the lock in for services, apps, games, music, etc.

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Post by chankstein38 »

tracerbulletx wrote: post #4

For it to have value they need to effectively apply it for something useful and have it be reliable, not just go hey we have llms. like if i could say siri share my location with my wife and text her "im on my way" oh and send her a pic of what im looking at through my sunglasses. And it worked 99% of the time, and could figure out to do it through google maps because she has android, that would be great.

And, to me, none of that even sounds like AI. Just an assistant app, smart glasses, and google maps not being shit. I can't think of a reason, other than the reasons I already use ChatGPT and the AI object eraser, that I would need AI on my phone. Most of the crap they pump out is just a solution looking for a problem.

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Post by Syonyk »

jazzyjackson wrote: post #69
zomg wrote: post #20

what's a realistic use case for ai on a mobile phone? i have yet to find myself saying "gee, if only i had ai on my phone, i could do XYZ!"

I used Google lens yesterday to get the artist name of a painting I liked, that was neat.

That's not "on a phone," though. That's just schlepping an image up to the Google data center, and getting a result back. That you're using the phone as an interface to a datacenter doesn't make it "AI on the phone."

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Post by devindotcom »

jonplackett wrote: post #40

These stats seem like the reverse of the story in the headline > A quarter of smartphone owners (25%) don't find AI features helpful, So does that mean 75% _do_ find AI Feature helpful? > 45% are reluctant to pay a monthly subscription fee for AI capabilities Are 55% happy to pay a monthly fee? >34% have privacy concerns. 66% have no privacy concerns?

This data is in the article

>So does that mean 75% _do_ find AI Feature helpful?

14% find it helpful

>Are 55% happy to pay a monthly fee?

6% are willing to pay

>66% have no privacy concerns?

no stat on this but I think we can assume based on the others that it is not split evenly because that was not the methodology

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Post by Perz1val »

jonplackett wrote: post #40

These stats seem like the reverse of the story in the headline > A quarter of smartphone owners (25%) don't find AI features helpful, So does that mean 75% _do_ find AI Feature helpful? > 45% are reluctant to pay a monthly subscription fee for AI capabilities Are 55% happy to pay a monthly fee? >34% have privacy concerns. 66% have no privacy concerns?

You can't say that unless you've seen the test. Was it an Yes/No question, "check relevant to you", or "write how you feel about AI features"? It would change responses drastically

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Post by lolinder »

jonplackett wrote: post #40

These stats seem like the reverse of the story in the headline > A quarter of smartphone owners (25%) don't find AI features helpful, So does that mean 75% _do_ find AI Feature helpful? > 45% are reluctant to pay a monthly subscription fee for AI capabilities Are 55% happy to pay a monthly fee? >34% have privacy concerns. 66% have no privacy concerns?

The poll is very weirdly constructed. It looks like they gave people a set of checkboxes to check rather than asking people to rank their opinions on a scale.

25% checked the box saying they don't find AI tools helpful, but only 14% said they do. Which means 61% checked neither box.

45% are reluctant to pay, but only 6% said they were willing to. So again, 49% simply didn't say one way or the other.

12% straight-up didn't check any box at all.

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Post by ktosobcy »

dageshi wrote: post #34
brianshaler wrote: post #5

I'd rather have flagship specs in a smaller package. The smallest in the iPhone (SE) and Pixel ("A"?) lines are still too big and tend to have previous-gen specs

I've been hearing this sentiment for 10+ years, but it's been tried and each time it's tried it doesn't sell well enough.

Because the execution is usually borked... I was eyeig ZenFone 9 (or something around that) and what? It was reported that it had problem with overheating and build quality.

What's more, I would love something akin to my current Galaxy a52s 5G with a display around 5.2-5.5" (I first had LG G2, then OnePlus3 which was already a bit bulky and now a52 as compromise; https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=5543&idPhone2...)...

I do have iPhone SE (2022) and it's the size of LG G2 and I find quite handy. Something of that size but with slightly bigger screen (better screen-to-body ratio). Specs doesn't have super-hiper-premium… and the price should be sane (usually compact phones are like 20-40% higher, sic)

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