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Learning to Learn

kevin.the.li

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Re: Learning to Learn

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Posts like this that talk about learning "efficiency" always come off as soulless and dystopian to me. I think learning should be fun and that fun learning is the most effective---that's the only thing I optimize for and I certainly don't think about efficiency percentages. What a drag that would be.

Yeah, I agree. Also, I don't think there is an ideal way to learn something. Different people absorb lessons best in different ways.

The people I've thought were most successful were not grinding their way through learning but enjoying it, letting new questions arise and pursuing them. Is that efficient? It might not seem so. But the learning tends to be more transformative; they grok the lessons more deeply.

A work colleague once told me that it's like reading textbooks in graduate school -- you read it once just to get a general sense of the vocabulary. They you start over, concentrating on the meaning. New ideas take a lot of study to learn well. "Efficient" learning strikes me as a compromise where you get a superficial understanding for the sake of speed.

Re: Learning to Learn

#72
> Very quickly identify what the foundational knowledge is.

This seems to be the most important part but also has the hidden and problematic dependency of... already knowing (i.e. already having learned) what the foundational stuff is?

Re: Learning to Learn

#74
Contra to a lot of what's being said in this thread, I think a lot of smart people get stuck in the trap of overvaluing quality of input relative to quantity of input. Put another way: the bitter lesson applies to the AI inside your skull too.

Re: Learning to Learn

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Something from Andrej Karpathy on learning that stuck with me [0]:

> Learning is not supposed to be fun. It doesn't have to be actively not fun either, but the primary feeling should be that of effort. It should look a lot less like that "10 minute full body" workout from your local digital media creator and a lot more like a serious session at the gym. You want the mental equivalent of sweating. It's not that the quickie doesn't do anything, it's just that it is wildly suboptimal if you actually care to learn.

[0] https://x.com/karpathy/status/1756380066580455557?lang=en

Re: Learning to Learn

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> My own learning project - learn Medicine "on the side". It seems ludcirous that we give up the keys to our health to doctors just so we don't have to learn 2 years of courses. Am going to fix that! While I admire the drive to become knowledgeable in the field of medicine outside of a professional curriculum in the disciplines, I’m not aware of any curriculum that proposes competency as a medical doctor in two years…

Can you tell me why doctors are totally useless in diagnosing extremely common issues like acid reflux. Why do GI specialists have no freaking clue what is causing acid reflux. Why do they not know what how exactly my a1c is relevant to heart disease instead of just prescribing me a statin. I personally know couple of doctors who themselves are clueless in fixing their own chronic conditions. Let alone helping someon…

Asking a doctor to diagnose and treat a chronic condition from a list of symptoms is like asking a detective to solve a crime from a list of evidence.

There is A LOT of additional legwork and investigation required to get to the truth even if you're brilliant Sherlock Holmes (and most won't be).

The best they can practically do in the 10 minutes they spend on your case, is try to treat symptoms.

Re: Learning to Learn

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post #75

Something from Andrej Karpathy on learning that stuck with me [0]: > Learning is not supposed to be fun. It doesn't have to be actively not fun either, but the primary feeling should be that of effort. It should look a lot less like that "10 minute full body" workout from your local digital media creator and a lot more like a serious session at the gym. You want the mental equivalent of sweating. It's not that the qu…

Judging from his name, he has been struck with post-soviet spirit of doom and gloom.

Re: Learning to Learn

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post #75

Something from Andrej Karpathy on learning that stuck with me [0]: > Learning is not supposed to be fun. It doesn't have to be actively not fun either, but the primary feeling should be that of effort. It should look a lot less like that "10 minute full body" workout from your local digital media creator and a lot more like a serious session at the gym. You want the mental equivalent of sweating. It's not that the qu…

Judging from his name, he has been struck with post-soviet spirit of doom and gloom.

Doesn't make it less true though.

Re: Learning to Learn

#80

Contra to a lot of what's being said in this thread, I think a lot of smart people get stuck in the trap of overvaluing quality of input relative to quantity of input. Put another way: the bitter lesson applies to the AI inside your skull too.

Hmm. Given that Textbooks are all you need, I’m not sure this holds.

Maybe “don’t focus so much on organizing your inputs, instead focus on many quality input reps”?

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