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Re: Cuba's grid goes offline with blackout after a major power plant fails

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The economic model and decisions of Cuba is a terrible idea and could never work. To show you how confident we are in this, we will engineer the harshest economic hit job and we will sanction the sh out of them, and every other country that tries something similar. Respectfully, the US and its lackeys

Second harshest - Gaza has worse.

And yet the US trades openly with Palestine. Seems like maybe the issue with Cuba isn't entirely the US embargo?

Re: Cuba's grid goes offline with blackout after a major power plant fails

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No they cannot, as US imposes sanction on any country that defies the embargo, so Cuba ends up trading with those that couldn't care less about US embargos.

Is the US sanctioning Canada? I must have missed that news.

Not directly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helms–Burton_Act

Re: Cuba's grid goes offline with blackout after a major power plant fails

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No they cannot, as US imposes sanction on any country that defies the embargo, so Cuba ends up trading with those that couldn't care less about US embargos.

Is the US sanctioning Canada? I must have missed that news.

Welcome to the world of politics and the hypocrisy, where application of rules depends on the weaknesses of who is being blocked.

"Certain jurisdictions, such as the European Union and Canada, have so-called blocking statutes in place that are intended to mitigate the impact of U.S. sanctions on their citizens or entities conducting (in their view) legitimate business in Cuba."

https://www.skadden.com/insights/publications/2019/05/under-...

Re: Cuba's grid goes offline with blackout after a major power plant fails

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No they cannot, as US imposes sanction on any country that defies the embargo, so Cuba ends up trading with those that couldn't care less about US embargos.

And yet billions in trade with the EU: https://webgate.ec.europa.eu/isdb_results/factsheets/country...

See sibling reply.

Re: Cuba's grid goes offline with blackout after a major power plant fails

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post #67

Commies bringing misery to people unfortunate enough to be subject to their governance: hardly shocking. Commie apologists complaining about US sanctions: pathetic.

I'm not an American so not educated on this. Are the sanctions considered successful? What are their goals?

The sanctions are nothing most Americans ever think of, apart from maybe Cuban cigars being exotic or hard to procure - though I feel like that was more of a thing 30+ years ago.

The goal was Cuba was openly hostile to the US and so we swung our large economic …stick, around. They took our assets and then held nuclear missiles for the Soviet Union during the Cold War, essentially putting them incredibly close to our shores.

They’re lucky the US didn’t do more, frankly.

Re: Cuba's grid goes offline with blackout after a major power plant fails

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What can Cuba offer? Same problem with Haiti, what can Haiti offer? Not even China seems interested in paying peanuts for them (The way they are buying Nicaragua and Venezuela)

What could communist Poland of late 80s offer? It’s a shame that USA cannot help their neighborhood into a better economic position.

Poland's economic success has more to do with the collapse of the USSR than any US', or any other particular nation's intervention

Re: Cuba's grid goes offline with blackout after a major power plant fails

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The Cuban gov would trade with the US if there was some way to end the sanctions and save face. But I don’t see that happening. Openly hostile lmao it’s such a tiny insignificant island nation- I never understood why the US should be afraid of Cuba - they are just vengeful after losing assets in the revolution. They managed to stamp every single one out in Latin America but viva was defiant. It’s all about ideology n…

> lmao it’s such a tiny insignificant island nation- I never understood why the US should be afraid of Cuba lmao wait until you find out how much damage a nuclear warhead can do and how small they are. They can even fit on a tiny insignificant island nation! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

You can fire nukes from anywhere on the globe nowadays… Cold War was over before I was born, yet you’re still salty

Re: Cuba's grid goes offline with blackout after a major power plant fails

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https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/where-to-watch-the-debateand-... Sanctions on Cuba have strangled their economy and spread misery among the population. https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/11/1143112 US is almost alone in spearheading the embargo.

What can Cuba offer? Same problem with Haiti, what can Haiti offer? Not even China seems interested in paying peanuts for them (The way they are buying Nicaragua and Venezuela)

Cuba is a pretty popular tourist destination, if nothing else. Cigars and rum are pretty big exports too. Definitely in another league compared to Haiti, as even communism beats anarchy.

Re: Cuba's grid goes offline with blackout after a major power plant fails

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post #54

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That’s not fundamentally wrong , but you are missing the degree of change. Shit has gotten so bad, so fast, relative to what it was before.

I'm not missing anything. I was very clearly implying one specific point that Cuba has never been a "mostly developed country" and has been impoverished ever since Castro and the communists took over.

For the vast majority of the population it was impoverished even before Castro.

Re: Cuba's grid goes offline with blackout after a major power plant fails

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post #64

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> lmao it’s such a tiny insignificant island nation- I never understood why the US should be afraid of Cuba lmao wait until you find out how much damage a nuclear warhead can do and how small they are. They can even fit on a tiny insignificant island nation! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

You can fire nukes from anywhere on the globe nowadays… Cold War was over before I was born, yet you’re still salty

> You can fire nukes from anywhere on the globe nowadays

ICBMs existed back then as well. If the nuke comes from too close, there is no ability to react with early warning systems. That was the core problem with Cuban Missile Crisis.

> Cold War was over before I was born, yet you’re still salty

Good point. Probably shouldn't be concerned about Russia either then!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine

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