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Re: Fable is winding down

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Post by samuelstros »

groby_b wrote: post #51
samuelstros wrote: post #42

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Webapps will work locally soon. Say hello to OPFS https://web.dev/articles/origin-private-file-system . Works surprisingly good, see this demo app https://fink2.onrender.com/

"Can store data" isn't "will work locally" For one thing, it's origin-private, so take a guess how well that works when the company owning the DNS records for that origin goes out of business. (There's also the issue with actually having an executable that can just run without any external dependencies)

Yeah bummer that Safari and Firefox are blocking any origin file access for security reasons.

> when the company owning the DNS records for that origin goes out of business.

Likely not a problem. Local data in OPFS is synced with a remote server for collaboration reasons anyway.

> There's also the issue with actually having an executable that can just run without any external dependencies

Assume you target the browser as OS, then it's already possible to have an executable: Run the JS file that renders a UI. Related: We will likely have an app launcher demo soon for https://lix.opral.com/

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Post by pc86 »

MichaelZuo wrote: post #59
pc86 wrote: post #43

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Why? Most people (as in 99.9%) don't give a shit about venture capital and don't follow it at all . I would guess that most people (as in >50%) couldn't even give you a half-way accurate definition of it. If you're buying enterprise software you're more likely to know that VC exists but you're not any more likely to care about it. None of the people writing 5-7 figure enterprise software checks are tracking which VCs…

A lack of credibility is an easy excuse for asking for big enterprise discounts, on well everything offered. The highly credible VCs should be able to positively influence the negotiated pricing, at least by association.

My whole point is the association is very, very far removed from anyone signing checks. Nobody knows who the VC investors of their enterprise vendors are.

Re: Fable is winding down

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Post by paulgb »

samuelstros wrote: post #70
paulgb wrote: post #50

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Sadly, I don’t think Safari or Firefox are close to shipping OPFS. https://caniuse.com/?search=File%20System

OPFS works in Safari, see this demo app https://csv-n2qj.onrender.com/ . What doesn't work in Safari and Firefox is (non sandboxed) access to the files of a user. OPFS is sandboxed.

Oh, thanks! That actually makes it useful for something I want to do.

Re: Fable is winding down

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Post by samuelstros »

paulgb wrote: post #73
samuelstros wrote: post #70

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OPFS works in Safari, see this demo app https://csv-n2qj.onrender.com/ . What doesn't work in Safari and Firefox is (non sandboxed) access to the files of a user. OPFS is sandboxed.

Oh, thanks! That actually makes it useful for something I want to do.

I wish we could talk about your use case later at Local Thirst. But ... I lost my passport and won't be able to make it. Another time!

Re: Fable is winding down

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Post by jwr »

MichaelZuo wrote: post #37
jwr wrote: post #19

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I run a solo bootstrapped SaaS. When people sometimes ask me whether I think this is a stable business, I tell them that with a VC-funded company, it's almost certain that there will be an outcome in several years that will not be good for customers. VC-funded companies go bankrupt, get acqui-hired, or get strategically acquired most of the time, and all these outcomes are bad for customers. The only outcome which is…

Wouldn’t the low credibility VCs, who don’t care about customers being thrown under the bus, be displaced by higher credibility VCs over time?

There are no VCs that care about customers.

VCs care about their returns. They get returns by selling the company to the next entity in line — a strategic acquirer, an acqui-hire acquirer, or through an IPO. To maximize their returns, they insist on maximizing growth, specifically user base growth. And when they sell, the acquiring entity usually ruins the experience for users, shuts down the business, or both.

Re: Fable is winding down

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Post by itake »

tptacek wrote: post #68
itake wrote: post #67

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1-3 people to do customer support do not cost $500k. you don't have to retain qualified engineers b/c you hire a contracting company that manages employee growth within their own organization.

Serious contract engineers cost more, not less. This isn't a Fiverr job.

cool, so you hire one for 2x the the price of a full time one for 1 week per month. 12 weeks * 2x price I've done this job for a 3-4 startups before. they can't afford a full time engineer, so they hire someone to work part-time to keep the lights on. its not a hard job and many engineers appreciate the consistent work and extra cash.

Re: Fable is winding down

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Post by MichaelZuo »

pc86 wrote: post #72
MichaelZuo wrote: post #59

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A lack of credibility is an easy excuse for asking for big enterprise discounts, on well everything offered. The highly credible VCs should be able to positively influence the negotiated pricing, at least by association.

My whole point is the association is very, very far removed from anyone signing checks. Nobody knows who the VC investors of their enterprise vendors are.

The smart money knows, which admittedly describes only a small subset.

But even if everyone was clueless, the seller will still likely present such information to the buyer to justify not providing discounts.

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