I don't even know how to describe this: https://x.com/ThePrimeagen/status/1845851330063028718
What did it say?
Response to DHH
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#72tldr: I make more money than you so your points don't matter What's really embarrassing is the same few Automattic employees arguing for Matt online.
I had the same thought yesterday reading through some of these threads. Its great that things are part of the public record as a snapshot in time. But now these employees have all sorts of awkward google-able conversation starters for future interviews etc. I'm happy for them if they are standing up for what they believe, but also how can you be so naive?
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#73This article tries to provide cover for slamming DHH by opening with "this is a respectful debate". DHH, like anybody else, is imperfect. But the author acts like he is superior. He isn't. But I will say there is not much worse than a person who feigns respect and then goes on to say things like: "toxic personality and inability to scale teams" "it would be good to explore with a therapist or coach" (therapist really…
it reminds my that crypto "genius" who kept saying: "are you still poor?", then was taken to prison
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#74Isn't the nuance / difference that wordpress hosting between wp engine and wordpress.org are competitors v. creating a platform/environment like rails that is by default meant to be used to create other things?
It would be more like if rails had an arm that made money and someone cloned it and also tried to make money? I.e., the whole company was about rails and rails hosting and not about creating things with rails (basecamp) and worrying about other people who create things with rails (shopify, etc.) - that's a very different thing. I can see how then there'd be more pressure to look at trademark differences when the service provided is more similar? Or am I missing something?
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#75Suggesting that DHH should seek therapy is way out of line. > I’m unsure why you felt you had to insert yourself into this fight with Silver Lake / WP Engine and take their side, but here we are. It seems that the fight has been made public with photomatt's constant commentary, at least on HN. Unconvincing.
> Suggesting that DHH should seek therapy is way out of line. Matt already knows this.[0] photomatt: "It is also unethical to publicly speculate on my medication, medical state, or mental health." 0. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB1ZXFiEgJY
I love that people can say anything they want online. “It is unethical to publicly speculate on my mental health” is a sentence that sounds like it could be true, but it certainly is not. That’s not true! People are very much allowed to wonder out loud about extremely public behavior that has real impacts on real people.
That argument sounds more like “it is unethical to treat me as anything but God’s Special Fancy Boy, as my crusade is righteous and my foes ontologically evil”, which has the opposite effect when you’re trying to discourage people from asking “What the fuck is going on with this guy?”
I’ll refer to my previous comment on this ordeal as well: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41822606
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#76This is one of those moments where you make your opponent look really good and you're too blind to see it.
I never took much issue with DHH and now I feel I just side with him. Talk about being out of touch with everything Matt.
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#77What is the endgoal for WpEngine.I am not following the drama closely. 1.Are they legally in the clear?(Note:Legally) 2.Can they rebrand to something other than Wp?
the 'wp' word never been legally trademarked. The usage is okay until Sep 24th [1], but becoming problematic since the king mad [2]
1. https://web.archive.org/web/20240924024555/https://wordpress...
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#78>David, perhaps it would be good to explore with a therapist or coach why you keep having these great ideas but cannot scale them beyond a handful of niche customers. I will give full credit and respect. 37signals inspired tons of what Automattic does! We’re now half a billion in revenue. Why are you still so small? I'm just going to tell a little story here. A long time ago, I worked on a recolorable Drupal theme, w…
I just read the links you gave about the port and I wanted to say I'm just sorry for both you and Stefan Nagtegaal. What a gut punch to not even get to release your work in the way you intended before it was taken. Ugh.
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#79> It's even more outrageous that Automattic has chosen trademarks as their method to get their "Al Capone" ... I give you a gift of code, you accept the terms of the license. There cannot be a second set of shadow obligations...
Except there is a second set of obligations, specifically designed to help avoid business confusion: trademarks. It's not clear why trademarks are considered outrageous. Rails™ matters to DHH, WordPress™ matters to Matt.
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#80> DHH claims to be an expert on open source, but his toxic personality and inability to scale teams means that although he has invented about half a trillion dollars worth of good ideas, most of the value has been captured by others.
Just wondering about ruby, linux, etc.
Poor Linus.