> Fast, performant and cheap. What's the difference between fast and performant?
Hasty guess: fast is responsiveness, performant is performance per watt?
fast is latency, performant is bandwidth
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#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why does this question always come up? There's zero technical reasons you can't electronically pay with all-open software stack e.g. Ethereum on GNU/Linux, it's pure matter of trust. With currently available payment standards, it's like asking for a live credit card with someone else's private key and an open debug port, all at the same time. Things don't work that way.
What kind of reply is this? None of the people I want to give money will take Ethereum.
Then what makes you think the same people will let you insert a bomb-looking thing with wires sticking out into a credit card terminal?
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#73What I want is quality to the level of flagship android phones or the iphone with the ability to plug it in to a keyboard, mouse and screen and have it function as my laptop as well. One single integrated experience. I think everyone wants this. We have the technology we have the demand, it's just companies who make the high quality phones want to completely lock down the market. You would think the free market would…
> One single integrated experience. I think everyone wants this This is insane to me. Like not just no. Hell no. I want my phone to be a gadget, like a watch, not a whole ass computer. I want my tablet to be its own thing from my laptop, which is different from my PC(s). I absolutely, positively do NOT want general purpose computing to be the typical paradigm. I don’t want, need, or even like the idea of my phone, th…
But it got electrolytes?
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
They could say it's pronounced "Wendigo" and people would still read it "Furry".
If people read "fury" as "furry" then that's a literacy problem.
You’re right.
And if you can’t understand why almost everyone will read ‘furi’ as furry and not ‘fury’, then you’ve got a phonics problem.
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#75> Fast, performant and cheap. You wanted all 3? Now you got it!
What's the difference between fast and "performant"?
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#76Apparently it is based on Halium, so it's probably not going to run mainline Linux any time soon. On the other hand, I'm less happy with Android than I pretty much ever have been, so having some more options outside of relatively unusable Linux phones and being stuck with modified Android firmware certainly does not hurt. I am definitely interested, especially if the team working on it is as active as it seems they a…
I work on this device. We are currently QAing the latest update with our community, which contains a lot of goodies and improvements shaped directly from community feedback. You can see previous changelogs at https://furilabs.com/changelog I am obviously a little biased, but this is probably the first Linux phone that people can actually use. Someone in our community switched from iPhone to this without much of an is…
Anyone tried running KDE?
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#77What I want is quality to the level of flagship android phones or the iphone with the ability to plug it in to a keyboard, mouse and screen and have it function as my laptop as well. One single integrated experience. I think everyone wants this. We have the technology we have the demand, it's just companies who make the high quality phones want to completely lock down the market. You would think the free market would…
I agree I would love this option, but how much would you be willing to pay for such a device? Would you pay $800? $1,000? $1,400? That's where I have a hard time. I would pay that kind of money, but I would need something well polished and fully capable of being a "daily driver." I think many people are in the same place I am, and thus we have a real chicken and egg problem here.
Hmm. If I bought a phone for ~$600 and a laptop for ~$1000, I guess I’d pay ~$1700 for the converged device (adding a little bit because of the intangible benefit of not having to manage my files anymore).
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#78Why not use the open source Android? I just feel like it would be more mature. And yes I like many others here have been trying Linux phones for 10+ years, since N900. Your phone just has to work, it can't crash because you get a call, or hide buttons because the UI is confused by orientation. IT MUST WORK. So that's why I wonder why people don't just use Android.
Open source Android has been increasingly neglected by Google, and is (essentially) unusable at this point unless you are ok with the look and feel of very early Android. It also isn't likely to improve as Google's strategy seems to be to move toward more and more proprietaryness. I think a much more sustainable approach is to focus on existing Linux distros and get them more usable on phones.
You are wrong about AOSP. I'm running LineageOS (Android 14) on both my phone and tablet without Gapps and it is a fully functional system. (NewPipe for youtube, Aurora/Fdroid for for App Stores)
I don't know what you mean by "look and feel of early android" either, as AOSP based ROMs look just like Google Pixel in the settings, quick dropdowns and dialogue popups.
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
I work on this device. We are currently QAing the latest update with our community, which contains a lot of goodies and improvements shaped directly from community feedback. You can see previous changelogs at https://furilabs.com/changelog I am obviously a little biased, but this is probably the first Linux phone that people can actually use. Someone in our community switched from iPhone to this without much of an is…
Anyone tried running KDE?
Not on this device in particular, but I've seen it done in the Droidian community. Similar steps should work, although I heard it's a little janky.
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#80Very tempting. What is the deal with play store integrity, i.e. is wallet (and some banking apps) supported?
Afraid not. These things usually require hardware attestation to ensure you're running the exact software Google wants you to run. Now, if someone figured out a way to bypass it, that would probably work for a bit. But it's a cat and mouse game.
It's not just what Google wants you to run, it's what Google promises to some of its customers through a face it has on one of numerous facets(facing banks in this case) as what they let users do with phones, and a humanware chain of trust that allows the server and the phone to be viewed as sort-of secure computing environment.
From an idealist standpoint, it shouldn't be done that way by taking away rights from users, but trivializing it as how specifically Google wants you to do it isn't accurate either.