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Re: Gosub – An open-source browser engine

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Post by chasil »

ratmice wrote: post #34
chasil wrote: post #14

Would a fork of Chromium that was restricted to MISRA-C/C++ offer any real security advantages? Would parts of Chromium be fundamentally incompatible with these standards? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MISRA_C

I would think the MISRA rules against dynamic memory allocation would present serious difficulty if not fundamental incompatibility when trying to implement web standards.

It is against the rules to call malloc, yes.

However, it is not against the rules to launch another process with a static amount of declared memory, then access it over shmat().

This is cheating, but could it be safer?

Re: Gosub – An open-source browser engine

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Post by joshmarinacci »

sharktheone wrote: post #36
joshmarinacci wrote: post #28

Former Mozilla employee here. The fact that they are writing their own bytestream abstraction does not bode well. That said, I hope they succeed at shipping something, even if it’s not competitive with Chrome. My previous thoughts on the topic: Why you can’t build a web browser and why you should anyway. https://joshondesign.com/2022/12/14/browser_1000_loc

The byte stream is one of the first components that was written. Probably It wouldn't be written nowadays. The browser is quite modular, so in the end you can completely out out of that system.

That’s good to hear. I’m excited to see you’ve got a good html parser. That’s worth a lot just by itself.

Re: Gosub – An open-source browser engine

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Post by opem »

It's true that the complexity of these kinda projects are enormous, but considering chrome/webkit's monopoly in the browser space, I feel we should always welcome and appreciate alternative efforts...regardless of the project's outcome.

P.S. the website and the probably AI generated logo is giving a sketchy vibe about the project :)

Re: Gosub – An open-source browser engine

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Post by airstrike »

roywashere wrote: post #59
diggan wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> develop a fully compatible browser engine Do we need more "fully compatible" engines? I could imagine there are use cases for browser engines that work with just parts of the specification, particularly the most common ones used in the wild.

Google tried a browser that only supported and limited CSS for embedded purposes and it went nowhere

That just means that specific subset of features wasn't lucky enough to make it compelling at that particular point in time for the markets it meant to address.

Change any of those variables and you may have a winning proposition.

Re: Gosub – An open-source browser engine

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Post by serf »

opem wrote: post #73

It's true that the complexity of these kinda projects are enormous, but considering chrome/webkit's monopoly in the browser space, I feel we should always welcome and appreciate alternative efforts...regardless of the project's outcome. P.S. the website and the probably AI generated logo is giving a sketchy vibe about the project :)

>P.S. the website and the probably AI generated logo is giving a sketchy vibe about the project :)

certainly some reasoning would be more constructive than a smiley face, because I looked at the website, I looked at the logo[0] - I didn't share the same feeling.

Certainly it could be AI generated, but why 'sketchy'? Is it something to do with your own personal feelings on AI use, or just the aesthetic in general?

I genuinely don't understand -- this isn't a criticism or witty comment lest it be taken that way.

[0]: https://gosub.io/gosub-logo.svg

Re: Gosub – An open-source browser engine

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Post by sharktheone »

opem wrote: post #73

It's true that the complexity of these kinda projects are enormous, but considering chrome/webkit's monopoly in the browser space, I feel we should always welcome and appreciate alternative efforts...regardless of the project's outcome. P.S. the website and the probably AI generated logo is giving a sketchy vibe about the project :)

No, the website isn't AI generated. There might be some parts of it, though, like general structure of the website and structure of texts.

Yes, the initial logo design was generated by AI, however the current logo was made by a designer from the AI's draft.

I don't know if it is a compliment that my website design skills match the ones of AI or if it is more an insult

Re: Gosub – An open-source browser engine

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Post by afavour »

serf wrote: post #76
opem wrote: post #73

It's true that the complexity of these kinda projects are enormous, but considering chrome/webkit's monopoly in the browser space, I feel we should always welcome and appreciate alternative efforts...regardless of the project's outcome. P.S. the website and the probably AI generated logo is giving a sketchy vibe about the project :)

>P.S. the website and the probably AI generated logo is giving a sketchy vibe about the project :) certainly some reasoning would be more constructive than a smiley face, because I looked at the website, I looked at the logo[0] - I didn't share the same feeling. Certainly it could be AI generated, but why 'sketchy'? Is it something to do with your own personal feelings on AI use, or just the aesthetic in general? I g…

Just a personal perspective… no problem with the logo but the headline

“The Gateway to Optimized Search and Unlimited Browsing”

Doesn’t really mean anything to me and does sound vaguely scammy. Anyone promising me the gateway to unlimited anything gets a raised eyebrow, two if it’s something I already have unlimited access to.

Re: Gosub – An open-source browser engine

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Post by sharktheone »

afavour wrote: post #78
serf wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>P.S. the website and the probably AI generated logo is giving a sketchy vibe about the project :) certainly some reasoning would be more constructive than a smiley face, because I looked at the website, I looked at the logo[0] - I didn't share the same feeling. Certainly it could be AI generated, but why 'sketchy'? Is it something to do with your own personal feelings on AI use, or just the aesthetic in general? I g…

Just a personal perspective… no problem with the logo but the headline “The Gateway to Optimized Search and Unlimited Browsing” Doesn’t really mean anything to me and does sound vaguely scammy. Anyone promising me the gateway to unlimited anything gets a raised eyebrow, two if it’s something I already have unlimited access to.

Iirc that thing was also AI generated. I don't like it, but here we are and have this sentence. Imo ChatGPT is for name generation not the... best

Re: Gosub – An open-source browser engine

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Post by opem »

sharktheone wrote: post #77
opem wrote: post #73

It's true that the complexity of these kinda projects are enormous, but considering chrome/webkit's monopoly in the browser space, I feel we should always welcome and appreciate alternative efforts...regardless of the project's outcome. P.S. the website and the probably AI generated logo is giving a sketchy vibe about the project :)

No, the website isn't AI generated. There might be some parts of it, though, like general structure of the website and structure of texts. Yes, the initial logo design was generated by AI, however the current logo was made by a designer from the AI's draft. I don't know if it is a compliment that my website design skills match the ones of AI or if it is more an insult

> I don't know if it is a compliment that my website design skills match the ones of AI or if it is more an insult

Neither, it has nothing to do with design. I just wanted to point out that putting an AI generated logo, and writing vague statements like "optimised search and unlimited browsing" seems unprofessional to me.

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