Nintendo isn't just attacking emulators [video] • Hacker News Board

Re: Nintendo isn't just attacking emulators [video]

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Post by 3np » Mon, Oct 07, 2024, 9:31 PM UTC

pixelatedindex wrote: post #8

Dalewyn wrote: post #5

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Here's the proper link: https://old.reddit.com/r/SBCGaming/comments/1frjcaa/hey_ever... I don't know what the fuck "safereddit.com" is, but it is an unnecessary layer of obfuscation when the literal source is right there.

Safereddit looks like a website that implemented a private front end called redlib: https://github.com/redlib-org/redlib Agree that we don’t need to add a layer of obfuscation but this seems to be a way to reduce telemetry captured by Reddit.

Yeah. More directly, their IP blocking has been ramping up. Any of the official domains are inaccessible for me without a proxy these days. I'd post the canonical link if I could access it.

Re: Nintendo isn't just attacking emulators [video]

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Post by shiroiushi » Tue, Oct 08, 2024, 5:30 AM UTC

musicale wrote: post #22

shiroiushi wrote: post #16

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A large part of the US economy depends on IP law, including copyright; they're not going to suddenly abandon it. They could, however, shorten the terms to much more reasonable lengths. It wouldn't hurt the US economy to shorten copyright terms to 50 years, for instance. If they shortened them to 30 years, it would have no real effect on the software industry, though Nintendo would be pissed. I don't think Microsoft w…

> If they shortened them to 30 years, it would have no real effect on the software industry, though Nintendo would be pissed. I don't think Microsoft would care much about people passing around copies of MS-DOS 3.3. Well Windows 95 is coming up soon on its 30th... (and come to think of it MS already open sourced MS-DOS "4.0" for any retro-masochists who might want it.[1]) I'm sure MS Word and Excel must have improved…

>Maybe with some incompatible save formats

I thought Office used OO-XML, which they released as an open standard (mostly) back in the 2000s. I use it at work (unfortunately) and that seems to be what it still uses, and LibreOffice seems to work fine with it too. I don't think anything's changed here in a long time, but I could be missing something.

>new advertisements

I see nothing wrong here at all. Advertisements in Windows and Office are good things, for MS shareholders: they increase profits. Sure, they make the user experience worse, but who cares about them? If you don't like it, use LibreOffice.

>Office's largest enhancement seems to be Office 365, which offers an inferior and sluggish imitation of the desktop apps running in a web browser.

I'd say this is the biggest enhancement by far. Yeah, it's slower than running in a native app, but it was obviously a direct challenge to Google Docs, which I think came out earlier and popularized the idea of a browser-based office suite. The main advantage of it is not being tied to a single PC (or worse, a Windows PC), and probably more importantly, being able to easily share documents with others, even editing them simultaneously. That really is a killer feature for many.

Re: Nintendo isn't just attacking emulators [video]

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Post by benoau » Tue, Oct 08, 2024, 7:53 AM UTC

ronsor wrote: post #67

benoau wrote: post #36

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There's already a ton of options ranging from extremely powerful + expensive ROG Ally ~$800 to the Steam Deck ~$400 and much smaller/weaker Android and Linux handhelds like Retroid's products from ~$100 - $300. The PC handhelds actually run Switch games better than the Switch does. We're actually at a point where some Switch games will even run on smartphones.

I wonder if Switch games could be run in a WINE-like environment.

That would be fascinating!

Re: Nintendo isn't just attacking emulators [video]

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Post by ikari_pl » Tue, Oct 08, 2024, 8:36 AM UTC

3np wrote: post #3

Better source: Comment last week on /r/SBCGaming: https://safereddit.com/r/SBCGaming/comments/1frjcaa/hey_ever... --- It appears that my suspicions are true, and that I am being specifically targeted by Nintendo. My recent Wii U video was taken down and I received a second copyright strike, even though this showcase video was no different than all of the tech demos and reviews I have made on this channel previously.…

> I will no longer show any Nintendo games on-screen

Wow, the best way to get to know a game before buying is now illegal.

Re: Nintendo isn't just attacking emulators [video]

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Post by musicale » Sun, Oct 13, 2024, 5:18 AM UTC

3np wrote: post #58

musicale wrote: post #22

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> If they shortened them to 30 years, it would have no real effect on the software industry, though Nintendo would be pissed. I don't think Microsoft would care much about people passing around copies of MS-DOS 3.3. Well Windows 95 is coming up soon on its 30th... (and come to think of it MS already open sourced MS-DOS "4.0" for any retro-masochists who might want it.[1]) I'm sure MS Word and Excel must have improved…

Different company but if I ever got serious about doing graphics/photo editing again I might actually prefer a dedicated ~2010-era CS installation on a virtualized legacy box over anything that either Adobe or the rest of the market has to offer today. CS4~6 felt pretty "done". Creative Cloud still sucks. Surely that's a gaping hole in the market waiting to be filled?

At least we have Affinity, Pixelmator, and a few others.

Re: Nintendo isn't just attacking emulators [video]

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Post by musicale » Sun, Oct 13, 2024, 5:22 AM UTC

randmeerkat wrote: post #64

fourfour3 wrote: post #43

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I think part of the reason Nintendo (and it's not just Nintendo) is very reserved with their historical library is that they do not want to satisfy the demand for games that way while they're still making new ones. If you can legally play Pokemon GBA or DS games under emulation for a subscription, would that have an effect on demand for buying new Pokemon games, especially for the adult market that has nostalgia for…

> They have some of the most recognisable IP in gaming (and with Pokemon etc, one of the most recognisable bits of IP in the world), so they have the market power to pull people to buy their hardware too. I haven’t picked up my Switch since I bought my Steam Deck. That’s not “market power” that’s losing a gamer instead.

And I like my PSVita/PSTV, iPhone (using the excellent GameSir G8 controller), and iPad (also great for games.)

Nonetheless, Switch has been incredibly successful and I expect Switch 2 will be a hit as well.

Re: Nintendo isn't just attacking emulators [video]

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Post by musicale » Sun, Oct 13, 2024, 5:26 AM UTC

bigtex wrote: post #60

musicale wrote: post #10

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> I don't think they should have the right to prevent hackers to emulate it and share their findings They do not. Emulation is legal. However it is worth considering that: 0) NES Classic was sold as recently as 2018 1) Nintendo currently rent out NES games as part of Switch online 2) Copyright law ("lifetime" + 70 years) is on Nintendo's side for games themselves 3) Fair use can be a defense against infringement in s…

NES Classic only supported 30 built-in games, with no official way to purchase or download more.

Same for the SNES classic. And both are no longer available. ;-(