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Re: 炊紙(kashikishi) is a text editor that utilizes GPU to edit text in a 3D space

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Post by InsideOutSanta »

082349872349872 wrote: post #58
InsideOutSanta wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been talking to a lot of Chinese people using machine translation recently, and noticed that inserting and removing "not" is very common for all translation tools I've used, from Google Translate to DeepL to ChatGPT. I'm not sure if it's particular to Chinese ←→ English, or if it's a common problem across all languages. A priori, it seems like a pretty huge issue, because it changes a sentence's meaning to its o…

Chinese ←→ English? any chance you might be willing to recommend a better test for: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41696289 ?

I don't have a good idea on how to objectively test this, but subjectively, my impression is that most regular people in China don't know a lot about any countries outside of East and Southeast Asia.

Even something like Halloween, which apparently triggered this discussion, is not something most people, including kids, seem to be particularly familiar with. When I mentioned to a Chinese friend that we were celebrating Halloween last year, she advised me to be careful when inviting ghosts into my home. She was unaware that it is mostly a fun children's holiday where they dress up and get candy.

Re: 炊紙(kashikishi) is a text editor that utilizes GPU to edit text in a 3D space

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Post by drekipus »

ahartmetz wrote: post #61
panza wrote: post #39

"Sakishi is based on Emacs key bindings. There is a very deep and logical reason for this, but for the purposes of this document, I will just state it as my preference." I genuinely love Emacs people.

I once set out to learn Emacs, but the stupidly multi-key bindings for very basic things (Ctrl-X Ctrl-C to copy, etc) turned me off. Deep and logical my ass.

All I want is a cheatsheet between "how you would do it in vim" and "how you would do it on Emacs"

When a long time then use up and I want to give emacs a proper go, but I really can't live without some conveniences like "change inner string" or what have you.

How the hell do you do that in emacs, I cannot find out

Re: 炊紙(kashikishi) is a text editor that utilizes GPU to edit text in a 3D space

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Post by draven »

jbaber wrote: post #65
valunord wrote: post #64

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I once set out to learn Vi, but the absurd modal editing and convoluted key combinations for basic tasks made it a nightmare. Efficient and logical, my ass!

I find it hard to believe you encountered a single key combination when starting to use vi. Maybe you got far enough to see "ctrl-v"? There are 108 unmodified choices before you'd ever need a combination.

Furiously spamming ctrl-c trying to quit ?

ctrl-f and ctrl-b are the one I use frequently and amongst the first ones I learned.

Re: 炊紙(kashikishi) is a text editor that utilizes GPU to edit text in a 3D space

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Post by sunaookami »

sdlion wrote: post #34
coder543 wrote: post #18

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Translation is difficult at the best of times. I thought it was interesting how Google Translate seemingly kept coming up with different translations for the name of the program. Under “Features”, it suddenly decides the name is “Takigami”, as one example. By the end, it even goes so far as to say: “When you start up the cooking program , the following screen will be displayed.” I asked ChatGPT 4o to translate the RE…

As a note, for Japanese text deepl is widely used even by Japanese people. From eng to jpn it may not choose properly nuanced words though, but it largely produces acceptable translations.

It's better than Google Translate but it still leaves out a lot. GPT is the best at translating.

Re: 炊紙(kashikishi) is a text editor that utilizes GPU to edit text in a 3D space

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Post by argiopetech »

leonard-slass wrote: post #67
ahartmetz wrote: post #61

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I once set out to learn Emacs, but the stupidly multi-key bindings for very basic things (Ctrl-X Ctrl-C to copy, etc) turned me off. Deep and logical my ass.

Actually it's M-w to copy. C-x C-x is to quit.

C-x C-c exits. C-x C-x moves point to the opposite end of the current region.

Re: 炊紙(kashikishi) is a text editor that utilizes GPU to edit text in a 3D space

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Post by skeledrew »

InsideOutSanta wrote: post #71
082349872349872 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chinese ←→ English? any chance you might be willing to recommend a better test for: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41696289 ?

I don't have a good idea on how to objectively test this, but subjectively, my impression is that most regular people in China don't know a lot about any countries outside of East and Southeast Asia. Even something like Halloween, which apparently triggered this discussion, is not something most people, including kids, seem to be particularly familiar with. When I mentioned to a Chinese friend that we were celebratin…

Halloween is of Western, Christian origination and so knowledge of it wouldn't be something to expect in places not heavily influenced by the West or Christianity.

Re: 炊紙(kashikishi) is a text editor that utilizes GPU to edit text in a 3D space

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Post by rpastuszak »

drekipus wrote: post #72
ahartmetz wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I once set out to learn Emacs, but the stupidly multi-key bindings for very basic things (Ctrl-X Ctrl-C to copy, etc) turned me off. Deep and logical my ass.

All I want is a cheatsheet between "how you would do it in vim" and "how you would do it on Emacs" When a long time then use up and I want to give emacs a proper go, but I really can't live without some conveniences like "change inner string" or what have you. How the hell do you do that in emacs, I cannot find out

In my experience LLMs are pretty decent at this, i.e. explain step by step how do I do X in Emacs/VIM.

It's not great, but right 4/5 times which is still faster than googling.

Re: 炊紙(kashikishi) is a text editor that utilizes GPU to edit text in a 3D space

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Post by kevindamm »

draven wrote: post #73
jbaber wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find it hard to believe you encountered a single key combination when starting to use vi. Maybe you got far enough to see "ctrl-v"? There are 108 unmodified choices before you'd ever need a combination.

Furiously spamming ctrl-c trying to quit ? ctrl-f and ctrl-b are the one I use frequently and amongst the first ones I learned.

I also like Ctrl-o and Ctrl-i for fast-travel between positions (even across files), and especially that they make sense with an out/in mnemonic.

Re: 炊紙(kashikishi) is a text editor that utilizes GPU to edit text in a 3D space

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Post by ralferoo »

jbaber wrote: post #65
valunord wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I once set out to learn Vi, but the absurd modal editing and convoluted key combinations for basic tasks made it a nightmare. Efficient and logical, my ass!

I find it hard to believe you encountered a single key combination when starting to use vi. Maybe you got far enough to see "ctrl-v"? There are 108 unmodified choices before you'd ever need a combination.

: is shifted on almost every keyboard layout, so saving or quitting would require at least one key combination (OK, arguably you can quit with caps lock, Z, Z, caps lock).

But I suspect he meant "sequence of keys" by "key combination" in what was clearly intended to be a humorous parody of the previous comment.

Re: 炊紙(kashikishi) is a text editor that utilizes GPU to edit text in a 3D space

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Post by 082349872349872 »

skeledrew wrote: post #76
InsideOutSanta wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't have a good idea on how to objectively test this, but subjectively, my impression is that most regular people in China don't know a lot about any countries outside of East and Southeast Asia. Even something like Halloween, which apparently triggered this discussion, is not something most people, including kids, seem to be particularly familiar with. When I mentioned to a Chinese friend that we were celebratin…

Halloween is of Western, Christian origination and so knowledge of it wouldn't be something to expect in places not heavily influenced by the West or Christianity.

Despite already having our own (week-long, springtime) holiday involving dressing up in costumes, Halloween has taken a firm hold here over the last couple of decades. Kids have never yet showed up at our door, but they're definitely out trick or treating.

I'd blamed chinese factories needing more places to sell their plastic halloween gear, but now it sounds like it just comes down to US media saturation?

Then again, we should all be stealing more holidays from each other; a more syncretic world is a less boring one.

[My german teacher in high school said the best thing about growing up in southern germany was that they got all the holidays (both protestant and christian) off from school]

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