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BorgBackup 2.0 supports Rclone – over 70 cloud providers in addition to SSH

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Re: BorgBackup 2.0 supports Rclone – over 70 cloud providers in addition to SSH

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Post by iphoneisbetter »

dewey wrote: post #70
mbrumlow wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> set and forget for me and after 7 years Please tell me you verify your backups now and then?

This always gets repeated, sounds good and makes sense theoretically but in reality there's no good way to do that and it should be the job of a computer to that. Restoring one file from the backup, works but what if something else is corrupted? Restoring the system from the image, works but what if some directory is not in the backup and you don't see that while testing?

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Re: BorgBackup 2.0 supports Rclone – over 70 cloud providers in addition to SSH

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Post by fourstepper »

copirate wrote: post #60
delusional wrote: post #31

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I'd recommend having a look at Hetzner's "storage box" products. It's hard to beat 4€ a month for 1TB of SSH accessible storage.

SSH access on the storage boxes is quite limited: > It is possible to get interactive SSH access, but this access is limited. It is not possible to have interactive access via port 22, but it is possible via port 23. There is no full shell. For example, it is not possible to use pipes or redirects. It is also not possible to execute uploaded scripts. https://docs.hetzner.com/storage/storage-box/access/access-s... htt…

At what point would they effectively be selling you a VM with 1TB of storage for 4 EUR a month? :D

Re: BorgBackup 2.0 supports Rclone – over 70 cloud providers in addition to SSH

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Post by TiredOfLife »

delusional wrote: post #31
cstuder wrote: post #23

If you're looking for cheap online storage for your backups know this: A Microsoft 365 Single subscription comes with 1 TB of OneDrive space (Family subscriptions with 1 TB per person). I've been using it with restic + rclone successfully for years. It's not very fast, but works.

I'd recommend having a look at Hetzner's "storage box" products. It's hard to beat 4€ a month for 1TB of SSH accessible storage.

6x1TB for 10€ with 30 day cryptolocker protection comes close.

Re: BorgBackup 2.0 supports Rclone – over 70 cloud providers in addition to SSH

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Post by TiredOfLife »

nine_k wrote: post #37
darthrupert wrote: post #27

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Syncthing?

Syncthing is great, but it's peer to peer, and it requires block storage ("filesystem"). It also has no idea of point-in-time snapshots. Syncthing, is, as is unison, rsync, etc, basically a mirroring tool. By contrast, Borg, Restic, Kopia (anything else?) use object storage, aka binary blobs, like S3 or R2 or One Drive. They store both entire copies and small diffs on top of them, much like video codecs, or like git.…

https://docs.syncthing.net/users/versioning.html

Re: BorgBackup 2.0 supports Rclone – over 70 cloud providers in addition to SSH

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Post by gmuslera »

Used BorgBackup 1.x with rclone, backing up in a local repository and then sending it to S3 with Rclone. For the way that borg works with files, most of the historic data lies on old, untouched files in the repository, only a catalog and the new blocks create new and update files. So it was great for using some of the S3 tiers that move files that doesn't change for some period automatically to a cheaper class.

Having both together makes easier to get this kind of use case.

Re: BorgBackup 2.0 supports Rclone – over 70 cloud providers in addition to SSH

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Post by witten »

Helmut10001 wrote: post #46
mbrumlow wrote: post #28

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> set and forget for me and after 7 years Please tell me you verify your backups now and then?

Borgmatic runs consistency checks [1] once a month on all repositories and archives and I occasionally retrieve older versions for selected files (archives with --verify-data only once a year or whenever I feel the need - there's 9TB of data in the borg repo, which takes a bit to scan). Note though that borg is not my main backup, it is the fallback "3" in the 3-2-1 principle, where my primary data is a ZFS Raidz2 an…

You may also be interested in borgmatic's (beta) "spot" check, which compares your backup archive's files to your source files: https://torsion.org/borgmatic/docs/how-to/deal-with-very-lar...

Re: BorgBackup 2.0 supports Rclone – over 70 cloud providers in addition to SSH

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Post by copirate »

fourstepper wrote: post #72
copirate wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SSH access on the storage boxes is quite limited: > It is possible to get interactive SSH access, but this access is limited. It is not possible to have interactive access via port 22, but it is possible via port 23. There is no full shell. For example, it is not possible to use pipes or redirects. It is also not possible to execute uploaded scripts. https://docs.hetzner.com/storage/storage-box/access/access-s... htt…

At what point would they effectively be selling you a VM with 1TB of storage for 4 EUR a month? :D

There is a least one provider that sells a full VM with 1 TB for 5 € a month (AlphaVPS).

Re: BorgBackup 2.0 supports Rclone – over 70 cloud providers in addition to SSH

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Post by jjice »

For personal use, at what point would one recommend using Borg over a regular rsync?

I currently use rsync to backup up a set of directories on a drive to another drive and a remote service (rsync.net). It's been working great, but I'm not sure if my use-case is just simple enough where this is a good solution, or if I'm missing a big benefit of Borg. I do envy Borg's encryption, but the complexity of a new tool tied with the paranoia of me maybe screwing up all my data has had me on edge a bit to make the leap. I don't have a ton of data to backup, say about 5TB at the moment.

Re: BorgBackup 2.0 supports Rclone – over 70 cloud providers in addition to SSH

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Post by Helmut10001 »

witten wrote: post #76
Helmut10001 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Borgmatic runs consistency checks [1] once a month on all repositories and archives and I occasionally retrieve older versions for selected files (archives with --verify-data only once a year or whenever I feel the need - there's 9TB of data in the borg repo, which takes a bit to scan). Note though that borg is not my main backup, it is the fallback "3" in the 3-2-1 principle, where my primary data is a ZFS Raidz2 an…

You may also be interested in borgmatic's (beta) "spot" check, which compares your backup archive's files to your source files: https://torsion.org/borgmatic/docs/how-to/deal-with-very-lar...

Nice! This looks really awesome and practical. Thank you so much.

Re: BorgBackup 2.0 supports Rclone – over 70 cloud providers in addition to SSH

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Post by ensignavenger »

rmoriz wrote: post #66

It's a joy that the OSS world has so many active and really good backup tooling projects like Borg, restic and all the fancy wrapper/GUI tools. I use many of them in different environments for customer setups, desktops and my own cloud setup. It's essential to have several different options and each project has its own USP. A big thanks to everyone involved!

As you seem familiar with the landscape, do you care to share what you think the strengths/USP and weaknesses of each option you are familiar with are? Or do you know of a high quality blog post somewhere that does?
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