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Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by Kirby64 »

minimaxir wrote: post #51

The Pro variant is unusually poorly differentiated from the base model this cycle: https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/ The 13 Pro had ProMotion, 14 Pro had Dynamic Island and Always On display, the 15 Pro had USB-C and the Action Button, the 16 Pro...has maybe slightly faster AI? 4k120fps video? USB-C w/ USB 3? Not things most people would care about. ProMotion/Always On is still limited to the Pro models which is…

15 and 15 Pro both had USB-C. The 15 pro just has USB3 capable USB-C (15 regular was USB2 only). Seems like they're keeping that differentiation, which I suppose makes sense given the USB3 PHY is a considerable die cost.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by unsnap_biceps »

dblitt wrote: post #30

Notably, only the pro models support USB 3. The base 16/16 plus are still on USB 2. This hasn't changed from the 15 lineup when they switched to USB-C.

what do you use that usb 3 speeds matter? The only thing ever plugged into my phones port is a charger.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by veber-alex »

minimaxir wrote: post #51

The Pro variant is unusually poorly differentiated from the base model this cycle: https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/ The 13 Pro had ProMotion, 14 Pro had Dynamic Island and Always On display, the 15 Pro had USB-C and the Action Button, the 16 Pro...has maybe slightly faster AI? 4k120fps video? USB-C w/ USB 3? Not things most people would care about. ProMotion/Always On is still limited to the Pro models which is…

The 16 Pro has a bigger display.

Each model now has a different display size.

You can choose between 6.1", 6.3", 6.7" and 6.9"

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by eitally »

veber-alex wrote: post #69

I am disappointed. The 16 Pro is larger and heavier than the 15 pro which is already heavy. I have small hands, I want a smaller and lighter phone. Not going to buy the 16 because of lack of ProMotion.

I'm not in the iPhone ecosystem anyway, so it's probably moot, but one thing Google did really right this year was to issue Pixel 9 Pro and Pro XL that are identical in everything but the screen size. I'm very happily upgrading from a very large 8 Pro to a nicely pocketable 9 Pro that contains all the same guts as the 9 Pro XL. Apple should have done the same.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by miramba »

tiffanyh wrote: post #25
ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #3

Ehh. Lacklustre.

Just curious, what specifically were you hoping for - from a product that is 17-years old?

Some ideas: -change screen ratio, increase width against height, like an iPad.

-Why are iPads and iPhones treated so differently? I want to use a pen on the phone and make a phone call on the tablet.

-Double screen, not foldable, but two screens like an open book. I could see a lot of useful applications like showing lists on one screen, details on the other, or a good ereader. In landscape, have a writing app on top and a touch keyboard on the bottom screen.

-Slide the phone into a laptop-like shell and run desktop apps with MacOS. It's the same processor the macs have, no?

-Likewise, attach to a monitor, keyboard and mouse and run desktop apps.

Edit: Linebreaks.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by talldayo »

vundercind wrote: post #63
souvlakee wrote: post #17

The more I watch, the sadder I get. It seems they've gone in the wrong direction. They have nothing to offer regular phone users, so they're targeting "creative professionals" with fancy features.

Lots of people have creative hobbies that involve their phone in some capacity—music and photography are common—and basically everyone takes family photos and videos with them, so new photo capabilities are always welcome even for non-hobbyist users. Personally, I think it’s awesome that my kids could borrow my phone and make their backyard movies a hell of a lot more “cinematic” than mine on the family camcorder eve…

> Several of the “AI” features looked like the kind of thing any phone will feel incomplete without as soon as I use them the first time, for normal-user use cases.

We must live on different planets. Are you really going to send your friends and family AI-generated emojis, or rewrite your texts to them with Apple Intelligence? I sure know they won't.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by cruano »

rootusrootus wrote: post #12
ashconnor wrote: post #5

Shocked they are still using 128GB as the starting storage size.

I guess they have more information about usage patterns than we do. Anecdotally, I have a 256GB iPhone, and I use it consistently for a whole variety of things, and my usage is just under 94GB. I'd bet that my 'normal' family members use a good bit less than that.

I got the 512GB model and have been using it without any regard for storage for a couple of years. All my music is downloaded locally in lossless formats. I keep full-res versions of all my vacation pictures/videos and I also download a ton of crap, from videogames to movies.

I'm at 285GB right now.

The breakdown is 81GB for music, 56GB for pictures, ~40GB of download content on TV/Youtube/Audible and ~23GB of games.

I could _easily_ cut down on that. There's games I haven't played in a while, movies I've already watched, or even music I don't really listen to frequently enough to have it downloaded.

Safe to say I'll go for 256GB next time

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by sk11001 »

souvlakee wrote: post #17

The more I watch, the sadder I get. It seems they've gone in the wrong direction. They have nothing to offer regular phone users, so they're targeting "creative professionals" with fancy features.

We’re at a point where regular users already have everything they need, from any model in the past few years.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by jsheard »

Kirby64 wrote: post #71
minimaxir wrote: post #51

The Pro variant is unusually poorly differentiated from the base model this cycle: https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/ The 13 Pro had ProMotion, 14 Pro had Dynamic Island and Always On display, the 15 Pro had USB-C and the Action Button, the 16 Pro...has maybe slightly faster AI? 4k120fps video? USB-C w/ USB 3? Not things most people would care about. ProMotion/Always On is still limited to the Pro models which is…

15 and 15 Pro both had USB-C. The 15 pro just has USB3 capable USB-C (15 regular was USB2 only). Seems like they're keeping that differentiation, which I suppose makes sense given the USB3 PHY is a considerable die cost.

> USB3 PHY is a considerable die cost

Is it actually a different die though? The A18 and A18 Pro are so close in specs, with the same 6 CPU cores, same 16 NPU cores and only 5 vs. 6 GPU cores that I would guess that they are the very same die just with one GPU cluster and USB3 switched off in the non-Pro version.

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