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> They just want to permanently make life of people in Gaza - at least for a generation - a living hell to teach them a lesson to never try Oct. 7 again. Nothing fair about that. Most of the people suffering had nothing to do with the events they're being punished for.
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Gaza is not just about the suffering but also the fact that the suffering is directly caused by a rich Western nation enabled by all other rich Western nations. As far as I can tell the US is not supplying the army of Sudan with billions of cash, munition, weapons and unconditionally political backing.
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Perhaps they can, but there’s 0 evidence for it. Regardless my point was that they have had tremendous suffering since being decolonized. Endless conflict with external meddling from all over. I suspect that had they been under colonial rule since then they’d have significantly less suffering and stable. But what can you do because that ship sailed.
> Perhaps they can, but there’s 0 evidence for it. Wouldn't this way of thinking prevent any improvement at all? If I must have accomplished something before believing I may be able to accomplish, how am I even going to try?
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Of course raw death toll isn't the only way to judge the newsworthiness of a story, but it is illumiating how things (presumably via trad media, social media, psyops) either enter public conciousness or don't.
Particularly I find it absurd how little I hear about the Yemeni civil war.
[0] e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ongoing_armed_conflict...
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I don't think India is a great example here. The Partition of India in 1947 resulted in over 1 million deaths.
That was before the country got its own constitution and had formed its national identity.
The point stands that decolonisation was a mess and the colonisers played a large part in it.
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It's been going on ever since at least Judaism, Christianity, and Islam have been warring over who controls the Holy Land. Remember the Crusades? Or the Holocaust?
I'm not sure if it's even worth going all the way back to ancient Egypt's involvement even further back seeing as there's so much on the dinner table already.
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Every single piece of land on Earth has been attacked and colonized at least once. Why have some peoples managed to do well and others so bad? I think there's something more to learn.
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The Arab imperialists left here 500 years ago.
If I were to live further to the East in many of today’s EU/European countries, I could very well live in places where Ottoman imperialists left only 100 years ago.
Sudan is now free of imperialists for 70 years. Only 30 years less than countries like Greece, Slovenia, Croatia and a few others in Europe.
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what are you suggesting
Bring back colonization for limited amount of time ie 50years. During that time establish government, educational, civil structures and start the economy. Re-educate the society, instill the values of high-trust society. Pull out of the country gradually replacing foreigners with local population. The name 'colonization' might evoke some sentiments, but we can call this some other name.
Come to the west, get trained and return home and build something better. Doctors and engineers driving a cab in New York is so broken.
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Every single piece of land on Earth has been attacked and colonized at least once. Why have some peoples managed to do well and others so bad? I think there's something more to learn.
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The most notable was the Roman Empire. Romans colonized and exploited vast areas of Europe for centuries for the benefit of Rome.
There were instances of invasion and foreign ruling by Africans and Arabs in Europe as well.
More recently, the Germans attacked and colonized France for a brief period of years. The Russians attacked and colonized almost half of Europe...
Europe was completely destroyed less that 100 years ago and many areas in Europe suffered terrible famines, some comparable or worse than Sudan now.