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E Ink faces growing competition in the "paper-like" display space

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Re: E Ink faces growing competition in the "paper-like" display space

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Front lighting isn't always ideal because it increases the distance between the screen and the user and makes it feel less paperlike, which is why Remarkable isn't front lit.

It also uses power. Both types of displays don't need power for light, which is a huge advantage. The power advantage e-ink has is not needing power to retain an image. While that's a requirement for some use cases, they should both have very low power consumption compared to backlit lcd screens.

Re: E Ink faces growing competition in the "paper-like" display space

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E-ink is special because it has basically no downsides when compared to paper. This makes it perfect for reading regular black and white books and for the vast majority of readers it's all they need. As soon as you try to do more, there are tradeoffs, like with anything else. I've never found a screen to be anywhere near as good as paper for writing (unless it comes with a keyboard, but even then it's not as good for…

It has some downsides compared to paper:

1. White paper is significantly whiter than white e-ink 2. Black ink is significantly darker than black e-ink 3. Large A4-size e-ink displays are expensive 4. Large e-ink displays are sensitive and can break, you have to handle with a lot of care

But otherwise there are tremendous advantages over paper. And with a textured screen cover, writing on e-ink is just as comfortable as writing on paper.

Re: E Ink faces growing competition in the "paper-like" display space

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Readers might be interested in this: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006647598296.html never used it, but am considering getting it to lay on top of my laptop screen for outdoor coding. One of the reviewers seems to suggest it is made out of the CPU etc from an old bitcoin miner which is no longer economic to run, but with an extra circuit board added, which is a neat way to get value out of old electronics!

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Re: E Ink faces growing competition in the "paper-like" display space

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It would be nice to see somebody do a device that isn't crippled in terms of hardware and software. In my experience, most hardware companies aren't very good at software and vice versa. Apple seems a rare exception to this rule. I'd love a laptop that I can use outside. Even my current macbook pro isn't that good outside. It kind of works but it's not that comfortable on the eyes. And that's supposed to be a screen…

I really miss, and worry that I will never be able to replace my Fujitsu Stylistic ST-4110 which had a transflective display (which allowed using it in full-bright, direct sunlight, even at the beach) and a stylus --- closest I came was a Samsung Galaxy Book 12 (which I wasn't able to replace). The problem is, trying to out-bright the sun on a battery-powered device is exactly as stupid as it sounds, and solutions su…

There's a new company whose name I forget making a transflective display tablet.

Re: E Ink faces growing competition in the "paper-like" display space

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I just ordered the nxtpaper 11 arrives next week so will post back later. I was torn between the HannsNote2 and Nxtpaper 11 but the battery life for the HannsNote2 is apparently less than 3 hours which I think is not going to cut it for a device which is meant to take me away from my phone I ordered the nxtpaper from TechInn - I think they ship global

I’m very close to getting a HannsNote 2. The battery life is disappointing, but it is very thin (maybe unnecessarily so). It’s no hardship to carry around a battery in a bag. I have a crazy idea about VNC or SSH in which case a host laptop might not be very far away anyway.

The HannsNote2 is such an interesting piece of tech I am extremely interested it's one of those situations where its just one or two features away from being a killer product IMO.

Having a back/frontlight, bigger battery and faster CPU could turn it into the ultimate tablet for what I'm looking for.

I can settle for weaker CPU, I'd need to try it in person to test whether I can live without a light (hard to know just how much ambient light you need to use it indoors at night comfortably) but the battery I think is too short especially if you factor in natural degradation too. For me it means I'll always be worried about charging it or tethered to a cable and spontaneous usage always requires diligent charging. Stuff like train journeys and plane rides are all then also dependent on the power bank

What's the idea about SSH?

Re: E Ink faces growing competition in the "paper-like" display space

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That's not as relevant as it used to be though. My android tablet lasts for a week of reading and charges from 30% to 60% in 5 minutes.

At what weight though. Eink devices are super light.

Not really. My Lenovo Y700 tablet is 375g, and my Kobo Aura One is 230g

The Y700 has a bigger screen and is 100x better at everything though.

Re: E Ink faces growing competition in the "paper-like" display space

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At what weight though. Eink devices are super light.

Not really. My Lenovo Y700 tablet is 375g, and my Kobo Aura One is 230g The Y700 has a bigger screen and is 100x better at everything though.

as if being 1.6 heavier does not matter? Or 1/3rd of price? I can hold kobo libra 2 with one hand, the battery lasts long, PPI is high, what to not like?

Re: E Ink faces growing competition in the "paper-like" display space

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I’m very close to getting a HannsNote 2. The battery life is disappointing, but it is very thin (maybe unnecessarily so). It’s no hardship to carry around a battery in a bag. I have a crazy idea about VNC or SSH in which case a host laptop might not be very far away anyway.

The HannsNote2 is such an interesting piece of tech I am extremely interested it's one of those situations where its just one or two features away from being a killer product IMO. Having a back/frontlight, bigger battery and faster CPU could turn it into the ultimate tablet for what I'm looking for. I can settle for weaker CPU, I'd need to try it in person to test whether I can live without a light (hard to know just…

I planned to use the tablet to connect to a tmux session and mirror a shell session on my laptop. I could then type on the laptop but use the RLCD display.

Not a crazy idea, but might look a little weird.

I’ve had a reMarkable 1 for a few years, and even had fun hacking it [0] but ultimately it’s too restrictive and slow for what I ended up using for, which was reading and annotating PDFs away from my desk.

[0] https://blog.afandian.com/2020/10/pipes-and-paper-remarkable...

Re: E Ink faces growing competition in the "paper-like" display space

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post #75

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The HannsNote2 is such an interesting piece of tech I am extremely interested it's one of those situations where its just one or two features away from being a killer product IMO. Having a back/frontlight, bigger battery and faster CPU could turn it into the ultimate tablet for what I'm looking for. I can settle for weaker CPU, I'd need to try it in person to test whether I can live without a light (hard to know just…

I planned to use the tablet to connect to a tmux session and mirror a shell session on my laptop. I could then type on the laptop but use the RLCD display. Not a crazy idea, but might look a little weird. I’ve had a reMarkable 1 for a few years, and even had fun hacking it [0] but ultimately it’s too restrictive and slow for what I ended up using for, which was reading and annotating PDFs away from my desk. [0] https…

I believe the HannsNote can serve as a monitor as its running android or am I mistaken? What's the benefit of tmux over it behaving as a regular monitor?

Re: E Ink faces growing competition in the "paper-like" display space

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Not really. My Lenovo Y700 tablet is 375g, and my Kobo Aura One is 230g The Y700 has a bigger screen and is 100x better at everything though.

as if being 1.6 heavier does not matter? Or 1/3rd of price? I can hold kobo libra 2 with one hand, the battery lasts long, PPI is high, what to not like?

The Y700 came with a rubber case which makes it significantly easier to hold than the plastic Kobo. The metal body and minimal bezels also look much more premium.

It's also _extremely_ better at everything, including for reading books, so the higher weight and (2x, not 3x) cost are well worth it.

The Kobo battery doesn't even last that long with the backlight and wifi on, and at least mine wipes its storage and OS when the battery runs down completely. The screen and UI are also the worst thing imaginable. Using eink devices is basically equivalent to torture.

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