HAOS is absolutely terrible when it faces filesystem corruption. I faced this a few times when my HAOS image crashed. You can't even get it to fsck on boot when it happens. I think that's one big reason people on RPIs have issues. The FS is on an SD card, SD cards are flakey, and there's no good rescue path when the FS has issues. I guess USB power is also historically not great on RPI. I haven't played with them in…
I’m not familiar with virtualbox, do you have any idea why HAOS on VB+ZFS was corrupting vs Docker+ZFS?
I wasn't sure. I had some kernel panics that I didn't dig deeply into, and I would sometimes use the image outside the VM to fsck it when HAOS would subsequently not recover.
Honestly, to be fair, You can buy two more powerful 1L dell optiplexes or HP prodesks for this cost. i5-7/8xxx with 8G/16G ram often go for $40-50 on eBay. Install proxmox and HAOS and you can use the rest for other stuff.
How’s the power consumption compare? If you don’t need more powerful it might not be the bargain it looks like.
Idle wall draw is approx 4W, average is approx 15W under load. Hovers around 10-24 mostly tbf. These are mostly i5-xxxxT CPUs. They have TDP of 35W.
And honestly, if you're in many states of the US - power's consumption is not necessarily an issue. Electricity is dirt cheap in the States, but I see your point.
Just a note to anyone interested in trying out Home Assistant: It's amazing _but_ do NOT use a raspberry pi to run it. Save yourself a ton of headaches and buy a mini pc (there was a list of used mini pcs posted here yesterday from ebay). Also I recommend using HAOS (or whatever the "we install and run the whole OS" option is called) so that you can use things like plugins without messing around with docker. I love d…
Pis are basically toys. They have a function, but it isn't running servers.
Just a note to anyone interested in trying out Home Assistant: It's amazing _but_ do NOT use a raspberry pi to run it. Save yourself a ton of headaches and buy a mini pc (there was a list of used mini pcs posted here yesterday from ebay). Also I recommend using HAOS (or whatever the "we install and run the whole OS" option is called) so that you can use things like plugins without messing around with docker. I love d…
I want to go the other way and say DO NOT use HAOS if you know anything about docker. If you have ANY experience working under linux/docker just don't bother with HAOS and save yourself the headache. You will have an incredibly better experience just running your HASS docker container by yourself. HAOS caused so many issues for me while it tried to set up the other containers (such as Node Red), specially during home…
I haven't used Docker much at all, but I use Proxmox for everything at home (LXC containers for various web servers, Zoneminder, Plex, Pihole, etc. and the occasional VM for stuff like pfSense) on decent hardware. Which HA installation method would you recommend in this case?
My only prior HA experience was around 2017 before they had multiple options; I used a RPi which burned through microSD cards and it was pretty miserable. Gave up by 2019. Not making that mistake again.
Growing up, my parents always made sure the radio was on, slightly louder than a normal volume, whenever we left the house. Funny seeing how that idea of presence simulation has evolved.
Just a note to anyone interested in trying out Home Assistant: It's amazing _but_ do NOT use a raspberry pi to run it. Save yourself a ton of headaches and buy a mini pc (there was a list of used mini pcs posted here yesterday from ebay). Also I recommend using HAOS (or whatever the "we install and run the whole OS" option is called) so that you can use things like plugins without messing around with docker. I love d…
I want to go the other way and say DO NOT use HAOS if you know anything about docker. If you have ANY experience working under linux/docker just don't bother with HAOS and save yourself the headache. You will have an incredibly better experience just running your HASS docker container by yourself. HAOS caused so many issues for me while it tried to set up the other containers (such as Node Red), specially during home…
I run with Docker and it has been fine for me, but one issue I have is that certain things aren't documented well. For example, when I played around with the voice assistant stuff, the documentation only explained how to set it up via addons. It took a decent amount of digging and trial & error to figure out how to set it up manually. Looking again, it doesn't seem much better now.
Just a note to anyone interested in trying out Home Assistant: It's amazing _but_ do NOT use a raspberry pi to run it. Save yourself a ton of headaches and buy a mini pc (there was a list of used mini pcs posted here yesterday from ebay). Also I recommend using HAOS (or whatever the "we install and run the whole OS" option is called) so that you can use things like plugins without messing around with docker. I love d…
I want to go the other way and say DO NOT use HAOS if you know anything about docker. If you have ANY experience working under linux/docker just don't bother with HAOS and save yourself the headache. You will have an incredibly better experience just running your HASS docker container by yourself. HAOS caused so many issues for me while it tried to set up the other containers (such as Node Red), specially during home…
As a counterpoint, I am very familiar with docker (I use it at my job as a backend developer / devops engineer), and I originally went with the docker based install, but eventually swapped to haos. I switched because addons are vastly simpler to install in haos, and any documentation you find typically assumes that is what you are using.
I want to go the other way and say DO NOT use HAOS if you know anything about docker. If you have ANY experience working under linux/docker just don't bother with HAOS and save yourself the headache. You will have an incredibly better experience just running your HASS docker container by yourself. HAOS caused so many issues for me while it tried to set up the other containers (such as Node Red), specially during home…
I haven't used Docker much at all, but I use Proxmox for everything at home (LXC containers for various web servers, Zoneminder, Plex, Pihole, etc. and the occasional VM for stuff like pfSense) on decent hardware. Which HA installation method would you recommend in this case? My only prior HA experience was around 2017 before they had multiple options; I used a RPi which burned through microSD cards and it was pretty…
I've been using HA since near the very beginning, and I recommend using the Proxmox Helper Scripts script that installs the HAOS VM. That's what I do. I disagree with the OP, HAOS simplifies a lot of stuff like addon installations, updates, backups, and migrations. It's the main supported way to run Home Assistant now and the one they spend the most time testing. HA is probably the most critical piece of software I run, so I want it to work, and I don't care about also running other stuff on the same system (other than addon's) because I can do that in a separate VM. Having spent years running it bare metal and in docker that certainly works fine, but HAOS made it a lot less effort to manage and has been very reliable when I ran it on a standalone machine and then when I moved it under Proxmox.
What if it's like, a utility company trying to warn you they'll cut off power/water/whatever in a few minutes because of emergency works?
Then you will find out when your power goes out?
So you can't finish doing it whatever you were doing (save a document you're working on, etc) or charge your phone a bit in preparation? Or worse for water, fill a few bottles/pots/whatever in reserve?
I've pip-install it in my homeserver (a small celeron with enough ram and storage) BUT I have a note to all HA users and devs: why the hell keep insisting on the WebUI for configuring, it's NOT reproducible nor simple. Oh, of course, for a casual user it's simple, unfortunately no casual users know about HA or how to physically integrate HA in a smart home, so the idea of making a generic end-user system it's a failu…
I've given up on Home Assistant because of this. Particularly because since I've switched to NixOS I really don't want to be arsed reconfiguring stateful crap from the start every time I make some change that requires a reinstall. Sadly, I've yet to find a viable alternative.
I'm still on HA since as you I have to find a viable alternative, the saddest thing is how many, dev included, do not understand the above rant, do not even have a damn idea what we are talking about...