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Re: I'm tired of fixing customers' AI generated code

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And then there are those of us who find computers to be more bearable than people... At least computers don't think it's their god-given right to treat you like garbage.

What percentage of web traffic today would you say is composed of bits that the user--if they bothered to inspect it--would prefer to not have anything to do with? I'd say it's more than half. Computers treat people like garbage all the time.

you're right, but I have a hard time picturing the computer as having emotions to be able to treat me like garbage in the first place. you won't rm the file? sudo rm file! the computer could fight back and say access denied still because of extended attributes, but for some reason I don't equate poorly written software as being treated like garbage. I always imagine some hapless programmer is doing the best they could with the resources they have in the system they're under, it's just not very good but that's not their fault.

Re: I'm tired of fixing customers' AI generated code

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But he made a good living out of it, so in the end it was a good idea?

It certainly puts a ceiling on a career. And I'd argue it probably gave him a pretty rough shelf life. At some point he has to understand what he's doing. Unless he's so good at selling his services he can consistently find new clients. And if that's the case, he'd probably kill it in sales.

sales engineer is quite a lucrative career. don't have to be really good at it, just enough to be useful.

Re: I'm tired of fixing customers' AI generated code

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Time to expertise is down to zero in “Fake until you make it” circles. 260 week-long iterations later, having survived the “hype curve” and the “Valley of Death”, they declare themselves “battle-proven”. A.k.a. experts.

the worst is when someone knows all the keywords to make it seem like they are technical but after talking for a few days you realize wait they really don't know wtf they're talking about!

This is one of the rewards for paying full attention to people, even when you aren't forced to by the situation: small misalignments slip out long before you hear something that jars you into a critical frame of mind.

Re: I'm tired of fixing customers' AI generated code

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There's room for all of us in this industry. What someone is unwilling to do is just an opportunity for someone else to pick up the yoke.

This could actually be an ingenious way of solving the problem. If someone has a support issue and can't solve it themselves, yet requires coding help, forward them a freelancer that they can hire for 20$/hr from upwork that knows this API well etc.

Unfortunately it doesn't look like there's a way to contact the author of this piece.

Re: I'm tired of fixing customers' AI generated code

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post #64

I will take all of these customers. Please forward them to me.

For real: profitable consulting businesses have been formed to help LLM programmers. BUGFIX 66, for example, and various others. They can charge substantial money to help customers cross that "last mile" and get their LLM-generated pile of code working.

Re: I'm tired of fixing customers' AI generated code

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I had a related episode at work when my coworker asked me why his seemingly trivial 10 line piece of code was misbehaving inexplicably. It turned out he had two variables `file_name` and `filename` and used one in place of another. I asked him how he ended up with such code, he said he used copilot to create it. Using code from a generative AI without understanding what it does is never a good idea.

> Using code from a generative AI without understanding what it does is never a good idea.

Hear hear!

I feel like genAI is turning devs from authors to editors. Anyone who thinks the latter is lesser than the former has not performed both functions. Editing properly, to elevate the meaning of the author, is a worthy and difficult endeavor.

Re: I'm tired of fixing customers' AI generated code

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OP should set up an AI chatbot to triage his customer support. It probably wouldn't be that hard to send that code right back to GPT and get a fix suggestion to the customer instantly. Stick your documentation for each endpoint in a vector database, and use RAG to give them a quick fix. If it doesn't work let them go to level 2 support for a fee.

Re: I'm tired of fixing customers' AI generated code

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Language models aren’t AI no matter how hard you squint. When we get actual AI (not counting on anytime soon) it will be more than the annoyed developer that loses their job

I mean, when the LLM says it isn't intelligent, why question it? https://chatgpt.com/share/127aa0ca-2273-4330-862d-53d9ff3dcf...

On the other hand, if you ask it if it's artificially intelligent, it says yes: https://chatgpt.com/share/37517e92-4c53-4053-846f-ab513e1dc9...

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