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Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by dubcanada »

enriquec wrote: post #19
dubcanada wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's not read past the words written on the screen now. No reason to bring Trump into the conversation at all.

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Where in the article is Trump mentioned? The article is about extraditing a person, who could just fly to a USA country that doesn't have a extradition pact, such as Russia or China. Dotcom has been saying pro Russia war things on twitter, which is easy to read. So OPs comment is consistent with the theme of the article.

Equating it to possible Trump Russia connections however has nothing to do with the article.

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Post by Andrew_nenakhov »

preaching5271 wrote: post #24

I appreciate Kim Dotcom for running MegaUpload and later Mega, in a time when the internet was younger and wilder. Also for his pirate spirit and "stick it to the man" attitude. But everything has a limit, specifically his resistance against the law, even if he hid it behind virtues. I think it's clear for everybody that one cannot get away with this kind of stuff, once governments get involved. Isn't it wiser to sto…

> I think it's clear for everybody that one cannot get away with this kind of stuff, once governments get involved.

I'm far more concerned with the stuff that governments get away with, including infringement of the freedom to share information.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by rootusrootus »

diggan wrote: post #16
awesomeMilou wrote: post #6

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When a owner of a file-hosting platform face the possibility of being extradited from their resident country to the US because they (allegedly) ignored DMCA takedown requests, it does seem like it could be of interest to many of us here. Signed, not a German.

I think it was more than ignoring the DMCA.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by catapart »

throwaway48540 wrote: post #13
wepple wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do not categorize him as “small folk like us”

It's still a human. He just shared songs on the the internet. He's treated like a war criminal.

He didn't "share songs on the internet".

He created a site where you can upload anything with complete privacy and anonymity. And then used it for racketeering, allegedly, which is where the government interest starts. The RIAA/MPAA want their pound of flesh, too, and it gave plenty of fertile ground for the US DOJ to build a case around so that they could get discovery and find out what they were really trying to get access to. But the piracy is not the point; not by a long shot.

As with anything that allows absolute anonymity AND absolute privacy, it's bound to attract bad actors. Yes, the "pirate music" types. But ALSO the "sell humans" and "provide criminal services (hitman/fraud agent/patsy agreement/etc)" types.

Dotcom can turn blind eyes all he wants, but if won't take responsibility for the damage he is facilitating, it is in the public interest for him to be held accountable against his will.

I'll never stop pirating media, and I'd never want a media pirate to go to jail. But I'll never defend a human trafficker either, no matter how "innocent" they allow themselves to remain via intentional ignorance.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by pizza234 »

The context is more nuanced that how presented by K.D.:

  the obedient US colony in the South Pacific just decided
  to extradite me for what users uploaded to Megaupload"
See Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaupload_legal_case#Basis_of...

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by immibis »

diggan wrote: post #16
awesomeMilou wrote: post #6

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When a owner of a file-hosting platform face the possibility of being extradited from their resident country to the US because they (allegedly) ignored DMCA takedown requests, it does seem like it could be of interest to many of us here. Signed, not a German.

DMCA which is not even a law in New Zealand, or indeed in most countries. If the US can extradite someone for ignoring DMCA takedowns, why couldn't Russia extradite someone for ignoring Russian censorship takedowns?

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Post by ajsnigrutin »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #38
snapcaster wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What other options does he have? I really wish people wouldn't cheer when smallfolk like us get crushed by the state. Not saying he's perfect, but what him and others have to suffer seems vastly out of proportion to what they did

I wish people wouldn't cheer when criminals evade accountability.

File sharing is not a crime.

IP holder damages should take in consideration what the actual buying power of pirates is, not just multiply downloads by dvd costs, and copyright laws need a huge reform.

He's a modern day robin hood, people would prefer him to win over eg. disney... and disney is not doing itself a favour these days :)

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Post by helsinkiandrew »

throwaway48540 wrote: post #13
wepple wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do not categorize him as “small folk like us”

It's still a human. He just shared songs on the the internet. He's treated like a war criminal.

He kept breaking laws with large penalties (or provided others a platform to do so, depending on your point of view) knowingly and repeatedly on a massive scale for many years.

Whether you think the particular laws are ethical or not, if you publicly break them, they will catch up with you.

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Post by snapcaster »

DSingularity wrote: post #62
popcalc wrote: post #2

One-way flight to Russia? His Twitter feed for the last decade does give merit to the idea that he's been on the payroll.

Ah yes, the classic. Everybody who opposes american foreign policy is labeled. Tweet about opposing the genocide in gaza? Oh dont listen to him -- he is pro khamas. Tweet about opposing war in ukraine arguing that NATO is outdated and not in the interest of Ukrainians? Oh pay no attention to him -- he is on the communist payroll. I understand when leaders in politics or industry make these character-assasination atta…

>I understand when leaders in politics or industry make these character-assasination attacks as they do it for their own interests (political or economical) but why do you do it?

Thanks for articulating this, similar idea behind my sibling comment. Sadly i think the conclusion is that the vast majority of people are small minded, spiteful, and more or less accept whatever narrative the empire feeds them. Wish it wasn't like this

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Post by blooalien »

Taniwha wrote: post #23
ionwake wrote: post #18

Anyone know why this is prioritised? Wasn't this copyright stuff from like 2 decades ago? Just genuinely curious.

He fought it all the way and ran out of options, we have a more right leaning government now who want to suck up to the US

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