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Open-source tool translates and dubs videos into other languages using AI

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Re: Open-source tool translates and dubs videos into other languages using AI

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> Who's upset here about the hordes of horse manure cleaners that lost their jobs due to the advent of cars? False dichotomy. Not every modern-day twitch celeb would be shoveling manure. And another false dichotomy: I was not arguing for either NOW or THE TIME before cars. And I wonder how many people would trade their modern influence job for shoveling manure in return for living in an area with cleaner air. Also, a…

You're setting an extremely obnoxious tone by capitalizing random words like that. I suggest that you edit your post if you want to be taken seriously.

I would call the neighbour playing rap and full volume 'extremely obnoxious'. It's hard to believe that a few capitalized words would fall under the same category. Suggestion noted.

Re: Open-source tool translates and dubs videos into other languages using AI

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Strange submission to post this comment on. It's not like translating and dubbing videos is the highest form of labor.

Voice acting (dubbing) is acting, which is a "high form of labor". In some languages/countries, most of the dubbing is performed by a few extremely good voice actors.

they wont replace voice actors for that. Rather it will replace voice actors for niche languages for niche content. Just like AI generated images doesnt replace artists working on the latest pixar movie but rather lets some small blog ad an image they would never had otherwise.

Re: Open-source tool translates and dubs videos into other languages using AI

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Unlike other methods of automation, AI is replacing human beings too fast. And before you say, "new jobs will be created" -- look at history. After the computer, new jobs have been created, but what kind of jobs? Every year, we are becoming more entwined in wage slavery as the wealth accumulates at the top and jobs become more meaningless. So, no, new jobs will not be created, except the kind of jobs that crush the h…

the reaction is wrong. it shouldnt be "oh no, jobs are being removed" but "nice, less work more automatization, let's make sure we all benefit through less work and not only the rich with more profits"

Re: Open-source tool translates and dubs videos into other languages using AI

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Huh, if it's good enough, movies/TV shows dubbed with AI-clone of the original voice would be great (if we can ignore the ethics of using the actor's voice and the loss of work for the dubbing companies and actors). For example here's how weird Friends is in German: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCoNSZV--z0 . Or Italian: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO5qTzvyQ1s Can AI detect the emotional tone of sentences yet,…

> (if we can ignore the ethics of using the actor's voice and the loss of work for the dubbing companies and actors) This is a shocking parenthetical.

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Re: Open-source tool translates and dubs videos into other languages using AI

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Localization and dubbing is a sad endeavour. By trying to accomodate everyone's individual preference for information transmission we accomplish nothing more than reducing our ability to understand each other in the long run.

Having a Babelfish is all well and good. Until it stops working, and you realise no one can understand each other any more.

Ironically localization is often pushed by well meaning Americans who only speak one language. "Oh, you're in a French speaking region. You MUST want French language. Let me force it down your throat while I prance around virtue signalling about how inclusive we are"

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post #69

Huh, if it's good enough, movies/TV shows dubbed with AI-clone of the original voice would be great (if we can ignore the ethics of using the actor's voice and the loss of work for the dubbing companies and actors). For example here's how weird Friends is in German: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCoNSZV--z0 . Or Italian: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO5qTzvyQ1s Can AI detect the emotional tone of sentences yet,…

> (if we can ignore the ethics of using the actor's voice and the loss of work for the dubbing companies and actors) This is a shocking parenthetical.

Optimistically, maybe we can replace the original actor with a synthetic voice as well. Then the issue is largely moot.

Re: Open-source tool translates and dubs videos into other languages using AI

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This one does dubbing, but is there an equivalent tool for subs ?

Not open source, but https://fluen.ai does a good job at translating subs, while using your own or standards style guides for the target language - ie. reading speed, max characters, "chunking" sentences where it grammatically makes sense, re-adapting them etc.

Re: Open-source tool translates and dubs videos into other languages using AI

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Localization and dubbing is a sad endeavour. By trying to accomodate everyone's individual preference for information transmission we accomplish nothing more than reducing our ability to understand each other in the long run. Having a Babelfish is all well and good. Until it stops working, and you realise no one can understand each other any more. Ironically localization is often pushed by well meaning Americans who…

Interesting take, never really looked at it that way.

Re: Open-source tool translates and dubs videos into other languages using AI

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Localization and dubbing is a sad endeavour. By trying to accomodate everyone's individual preference for information transmission we accomplish nothing more than reducing our ability to understand each other in the long run. Having a Babelfish is all well and good. Until it stops working, and you realise no one can understand each other any more. Ironically localization is often pushed by well meaning Americans who…

Are you saying it's a bad thing if the creator of a work decides they want it localized or dubbed into other languages? I don't understand why you want to take that choice out of their hands.

Which languages someone speaks isn't simply a matter of "individual preference". Learning a new language takes a lot of time and energy, and people only have the time to learn a handful of languages in most cases unless they can make a career out of linguistics.

i.e. I know a sprinkling of words in various languages, and I've started learning Japanese, but I simply don't have the time to also learn Mandarin, Korean, Cantonese, etc. So I appreciate it when authors of works in those languages offer localizations into a language I can speak, or when third parties spend their time translating stuff for free to make it available to a wider audience.

What's the advantage of closing knowledge and communication off from a wider audience?

Maybe I'm misunderstanding and you're just angry about Google Translate/DeepL etc (which I have a strong distaste for since they're Fake)

Re: Open-source tool translates and dubs videos into other languages using AI

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If it is such a fallacy, then why are there fewer and fewer options for those who don't want to be entrenched in technology?

Who's upset here about the hordes of horse manure cleaners that lost their jobs due to the advent of cars? Does anyone miss the stench of a 1800s street in the summer heat? No. Lets ask the influencers, the twitch celebs, the podcasters id they would prefer to shovel horse crap, or play with their e-device all day. And to be completely fair, the manufacturing jobs may be gone because elected leaders were told it was…

This is really aggressively reductive. Job elimination isn't entirely about people who were sweeping up horse dung, and the new jobs aren't all comfy podcasting and influencer gigs.

The job elimination can mean people who spent decades honing a craft and no longer have any realistic job opportunities at a remotely equivalent pay level, and have no path into a new career because they're now decades behind (or too old to realistically train up a new skill if they're a physical laborer). Sure, it's progress, but it's weird to imply that all the labor that's being eliminated lacks value or artistry.

And the new jobs are frequently things like acting as a babysitter for an AI or sitting in a call center pressing buttons. Certainly, this is also "work", but if we're comparing it to shoveling horse manure I wouldn't necessarily consider it elevated much even if it's more comfortable.

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