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Cancer rates are rising in young people

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Re: Cancer rates are rising in young people

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Post by 11235813213455 »

carbine wrote: post #70

I went thru very aggressive cancer treatment a few years ago (am a woman in my late thirties) for a type that was def not lifestyle caused nor hereditary. So far so good. I have received great care but no one has given me so much as a hypothesis as to what caused it. The type I had is rising amongst women under 50. If I had to hypothesize, stress and trauma are large contributors. I don't think by any means that prev…

if I can ask what kind of stress was it? Because most stress comes from lifestyle

Re: Cancer rates are rising in young people

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Post by hosh »

zo1 wrote: post #48
nielsbot wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just like leaded paint before... and perhaps all (fossil fuel) pollution too. I think the ultimate lesson will be "we're one with the environment, not, in fact, a separate entity from it".

Agreed. We simply have been functioning off the premise that what we do has no impact. But we are in the billions now and most of what we do we do at a huge and unimaginable scale. Nature could, before, take time to heal and "absorb" everything we threw it's way. Time was the ultimate healer. We no longer have that option and we simply must stop the third world from progressing. If you all thought it was bad with the…

What’s the cancer rate for young people in third world countries?

How much of the quality of life in first world countries depend on third world countries?

Re: Cancer rates are rising in young people

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Post by lovethevoid »

Wonnk13 wrote: post #22

36 y/o male with stage 4 colon cancer. Diagnosed in 2016. Lifelong triathlete / healthy eater. I think it's easy to write this off and just better screening, but I think that's certainly a necessary, but not sufficient explanation. I'm open to other ideas, but I have to imagine some of this is due to changes in our environment and food supply. plastics everywhere, pesticides in our food, pollution in the air.

Unlike the general trend which is that obesity is the primary cause, for your case it might be a combination of elevated stress and your triathlon work. If you were not working with a professional on your recovery and prevention, it might be possible the elevated intensity for longer periods could have affected your health.

Note there aren't any studies specifically about triathletes, only that with proper training, diet, and prevention as most higher level athletes get (uni, olympian, etc), there's no serious risk of DNA damage. Also short course triathletes face more risks generally speaking, at least for cardiac and gastrointestinal issues (not all being chronic, so there's no direct link to cancer here either).

Sleep issues are another area usually ignored since people believe they can't do anything about their sleep issues. I doubt most people are even getting good sleep, in the current ecosystem of always being available.

Additionally, due to the general availability of office work, more people are suffering from gastrointestinal issues than before. This causes us to be sedentary for long periods of time, but we believe ourselves to be "active" because we go for a run on the treadmill. I wouldn't say this really applies to you as a lifelong athlete, only that these extremes (sitting for hours, then rapid exercise, then back to sitting for hours) likely has unintended consequences.

Just some ideas.

Re: Cancer rates are rising in young people

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Post by jlcx »

cancerboi wrote: post #34
Wonnk13 wrote: post #22

36 y/o male with stage 4 colon cancer. Diagnosed in 2016. Lifelong triathlete / healthy eater. I think it's easy to write this off and just better screening, but I think that's certainly a necessary, but not sufficient explanation. I'm open to other ideas, but I have to imagine some of this is due to changes in our environment and food supply. plastics everywhere, pesticides in our food, pollution in the air.

30 y/o male with stage 3c testicular cancer. Diagnosis at age 29. I have a very rare type of cancer and this particular type of cancer has increased in numbers for young men.

3c here as well. The doctors were surprised that it had spread to my bones, and it didn’t show up on the CT scans that they were using for surveillance.

Re: Cancer rates are rising in young people

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Post by foxyv »

I wonder what our increasingly clean world has to do with this. I think there has been an uptick in autoimmune disorders that has been sometimes attributed to a lack of stuff like dirt and bacteria in our normal environments. I know that gut autoimmune issues are a huge risk factor for colon cancer.

Although, my personal main suspect would be obesity. Cancer and obesity go together really well.

Re: Cancer rates are rising in young people

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Post by SoftTalker »

coffeefirst wrote: post #65
jandrese wrote: post #7

This is a bit of a surprise given how the prevalence of smoking and drinking in the younger generations is steadily declining. We also have a lot more effort put into reducing emissions from all industries. The idea that kids of the 70's chain smoking in the smog have lower cancer risk than the teetotaling youth of today is just sad. The article touched on it a bit, but apparently obesity is a huge contributing facto…

Or its the chemistry. Every few years some new plastic/common nonstick pan coating/other common substance that you've definitely ingested repeated gets pulled from the market because it causes cancer, and it turns out that the giant chemical company producing it knew for 25 years and covered it up.

I took all the plastic out of my kitchen.

Cast iron or stainless steel pots and pans. No coatings. Seasoned cast iron is as non-stick as any flourocarbon coating.

Glass or ceramic drinking glasses, serving and prep dishes and bowls. Wood or metal utensils and wood cutting boards.

You can only do so much though, almost all of our food is processed and prepared with plastic equipment and packaging somewhere in the supply chain.

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Post by halfjoking »

Vitamin_Sushi wrote: post #58
halfjoking wrote: post #43

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The rate of incidents in GP's article show a large increase in the 90s. Are you insinuating that covid vaccinees were available to the public at the time?

No I’m saying the rate of incidents in GP article are fraudulent.

They are covering for the drastic, sudden increase in cancers from the Covid vaxx by pushing misinformation it’s been increasing since the 90s. If you follow EthicalSkeptic you’ll see a ton of ways they rig the stats:

https://x.com/EthicalSkeptic/status/1794022026178421023

Re: Cancer rates are rising in young people

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Post by thinkingtoilet »

carbine wrote: post #70

I went thru very aggressive cancer treatment a few years ago (am a woman in my late thirties) for a type that was def not lifestyle caused nor hereditary. So far so good. I have received great care but no one has given me so much as a hypothesis as to what caused it. The type I had is rising amongst women under 50. If I had to hypothesize, stress and trauma are large contributors. I don't think by any means that prev…

Why does there have to be a hypothesis? Why can't it just be random? I understand the need to identify a reason, but randomness exists and there's a good chance that had more of a role in it than anything else.

Re: Cancer rates are rising in young people

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Post by grubbs »

dev_throw wrote: post #66
Dig1t wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What made you suspect it? What symptoms did you have?

Irregular bowel movements, cramps that I couldn't attribute to what I ate, inexplicable fatigue. Eventually it was a bright red blood in stool which made me force my doctor to take it seriously.

Jesus - you had to force your doc to take it seriously? Like beg for a colonoscopy or something?

Re: Cancer rates are rising in young people

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Post by SoftTalker »

bjtitus wrote: post #27
hammock wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no modern improvement in screening process that would account for the increase in colon cancer we have been seeing in young adults. Colon cancer screening still does not begin until age 50

Is it only routine screening that would help account for increases or also better detection for symptomatic individuals? Maybe more easily available blood tests or more frequent referrals for colonoscopies for those outside of typical screening groups.

Colonoscopies are invasive procedures and not without risk. Perforations can turn this "routine" procedure into a life-threatening emergency.
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