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Re: Snow Crash movie to be written and directed by Joe Cornish

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On a related note, when is someone going to make The Moon is a Harsh Mistress into a movie?

When they can manage to fit a high school full of teenage vampires into the plot ?

Combine it with Time Enough for Love or The Cat Who Walks Through walls and you can have the immortal 30-40 year old looking people, wind the ages down a bit, voila: immortal, time travelling, teenager Lazarus Long encounters a relative and shags them during the struggle for the Moon's liberation from Earth.

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Yes - odd to think that once the idea of the military being outsourced to Haliburton, 3D city models on your phone/glasses and a cyberspace landgrab for new domain names was in the future.

I used to wonder when the cyberpunk future was going to happen. Then I realized it already has.

"The future is here. It's just not evenly distributed yet."

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Why isn't Mr. Stephenson writing the script? Doesn't even look like he cares,...which makes me wonder if I should.

On another note, Ender's Game is coming out and Orson Scott Card fought hard to get the right actors and write the script. Oh how I can't wait for this....

Re: Snow Crash movie to be written and directed by Joe Cornish

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> Stephenson's later books are much better (though after Diamond Age they become too long to film anyway). I disagree - his most recent novel, REAMDE, is twice as long as it needs to be (and badly in need of a ruthless editor), takes itself far too seriously, is full of absurdly unlikely plot scenarios, and is in general almost totally unreadable.

I stand corrected on the latest one, which I haven't read. I've picked it up in the bookstore a few times but the combination of a thousand pages of thickness and a less-than--compelling blurb on the back ( wasn't this a Michael Douglas movie? ) have failed to convince me. Thanks for the anti-recommendation... a thousand-page book is a serious time commitment and there's a lot of other things I want to read. To be ho…

> To be honest Cryptonomicon is the only NS book which I really and wholeheartedly recommend.

We're on the same page then, I agree with you. I really enjoyed Cryptonomicon. Diamond Age was interesting but tended to read like the script for an over-the-top sci-fi movie.

Re: Snow Crash movie to be written and directed by Joe Cornish

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to wonder when the cyberpunk future was going to happen. Then I realized it already has.

"The future is here. It's just not evenly distributed yet."

IIRC the original quotation didn't have "yet", and Gibson has remarked that adding it misses the point; the idea that the future will ever be evenly distributed is naive.

Re: Snow Crash movie to be written and directed by Joe Cornish

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I'm afraid they'll leave out the most interesting parts of the book and make it a dumb action movie. For me, what makes the book great isn't the plot, it's the satire of american suburbia, globalization, and the weird tangents into sumerian mythology and NLP. I hate when they make movies out of my favorite books...

If you like weird tangents and biting satire of American suburban culture, try _Infinite Jest_.

Both Stephenson and David Foster Wallace owe a debt to Thomas Pynchon, but Stephenson's relationship to Pynchon is unfortunately a lot like Dan Brown's (_The Da Vinci Code_) relationship to Umberto Eco (_Foucault's Pendulum_, another great hacker book): it's simultaneously superficial and exploitative, a kind of literary mountaintop-removal exercise.

Wallace isn't going to give you guns with with funny names or high-speed chases, but almost everything you say you like about _Snow Crash_ is abundantly scattered throughout _Jest_. Stephenson was also notorious for his thuddingly unsatisfying conclusions. Wallace solves that problem in way I think is very congenial to hackers. :)

It's a much longer book. And you're going to spend a lot more time decoding than you ever would in a Stephenson novel. But it's fun, and worth it.

Re: Snow Crash movie to be written and directed by Joe Cornish

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> Stephenson's later books are much better (though after Diamond Age they become too long to film anyway). I disagree - his most recent novel, REAMDE, is twice as long as it needs to be (and badly in need of a ruthless editor), takes itself far too seriously, is full of absurdly unlikely plot scenarios, and is in general almost totally unreadable.

I stand corrected on the latest one, which I haven't read. I've picked it up in the bookstore a few times but the combination of a thousand pages of thickness and a less-than--compelling blurb on the back ( wasn't this a Michael Douglas movie? ) have failed to convince me. Thanks for the anti-recommendation... a thousand-page book is a serious time commitment and there's a lot of other things I want to read. To be ho…

Oh man, The Diamond Age is my all time favorite and the book that drew me to Stephenson in the first place

Re: Snow Crash movie to be written and directed by Joe Cornish

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"Snow Crash is definitely action, and definitely dated (it's more alternate present than near future at this point), but if it's dumb I would sure like to see smart." I enjoyed reading Snow Crash, but I have to agree with the other posters -- it's a good story, not a great book. The prose is ...weak, to say the least, and it felt like science fiction for the sake of science fiction -- which is not to say that's bad i…

I wasn't trying to say it's a "smart book" per se; it's certainly an exercise in indulgent cyberpunk fan service, for better and for worse. Only that calling it a "dumb action movie" implies that the reader is not particularly aware of the state of action movies. Personally, I'm a DFW man.

if you're looking for smart books, you want _The Diamond Age_

Re: Snow Crash movie to be written and directed by Joe Cornish

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I fell like Snow Crash would be much more successful as an animated movie. There's a lot of whimsical, somewhat silly stuff in there that works in a book and could work animated but doesn't translate well to live action.

I fully agree. Cyberpunk (or post-cyberpunk nostalgia) will work really well in animated or comic form. Its actually silly to see a guy in a three piece suit run around with a katana or a cyborg girl in a fishnet bodysuit shoot a machinegun at a group of robot assassins. Once you try to make it "gritty" and "real" you end up with clunkers like Hackers or Johnny Mnemonic. I guess you could point out stuff like the Mat…

what about something like _Kill Bill_ that's basically an animated movie that just happens to be live action? (i'm pretty sure it actually had both "a guy in a three piece suit run around with a katana" and "a cyborg girl in a fishnet bodysuit shoot a machinegun at a group of robot assassins".)

Re: Snow Crash movie to be written and directed by Joe Cornish

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I'm afraid they'll leave out the most interesting parts of the book and make it a dumb action movie. For me, what makes the book great isn't the plot, it's the satire of american suburbia, globalization, and the weird tangents into sumerian mythology and NLP. I hate when they make movies out of my favorite books...

I wanted to agree with you, but then I realized: Snow Crash is basically the Tarantino approach applied to cyberpunk. The violence and bad-assitude is way, way over the top, but has a cutting, satirical intelligence to it. Eventually your inner fanboy and your outer ironist are laughing simultaneously.

So it's totally possible to make this a great movie (if you agree that Tarantino makes great movies, at least).

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