Pandora, Pandora, Pandora. No other service for me worked to reveal new songs and artists I did not know about that nailed my taste. But Pandora relies on manual tagging by music experts. Fantastic, but probably not very scalable.
The lie of music discovery algorithms
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Re: The lie of music discovery algorithms
#72In the age of internet, engagement optimization and recommendation algorithms create a new way that we are affected by the behaviour of others. That annoying dark pattern on a piece of software you use? Because there are people who fall to it, clicking on an ad or "engaging" more. That stupid show that keeps being recommended to you? Because a lot of people just sit on the couch, watching something on the list that d…
Yess! Thank you for commenting. I am very interested in this topic. Please do share with me if you find any interesting ways to explore new music for your taste
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#73Music discovery has never worked for me, for the simple reason it's the lyrics, not the music. I listen to anyone speaking truth, (the truth I believe, of course), and that gives me a wide disjoint range of music, but they are all singing about political social truths. Marvin Gaye, Public Enemy, Rage Against The Machine, Beyonce, The Stranglers, The Jam, Psychic TV... It's the lyrics, and now today, we finally have t…
You might like folk punk - check out Pat the Bunny. I feel like there are two kinds of singers - people who are good at singing, and people who have something to sing about. You and I, I think, prefer the latter.
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#74I’ve used everything, new and old media: Spotify, Napster, CMJ, pitchfork, bandcamp, allmusic, mojo, SoundCloud, beatport, last.fm, Apple Music… Nothing beats that one friend who used to DJ and still obsessively digs crates.
i’ll echo this. that dj friend or like i said in a different comment, your local record store employees. college radio stations. and just other people. it really is that simple.
People who feel they have a calling to be a DJ sometimes actually do.
I have a reasonable list of TuneIn stations (mostly US) that provide my favorite “discovery”.
Re: The lie of music discovery algorithms
#75Pandora, Pandora, Pandora. No other service for me worked to reveal new songs and artists I did not know about that nailed my taste. But Pandora relies on manual tagging by music experts. Fantastic, but probably not very scalable.
Re: The lie of music discovery algorithms
#76Music discovery has never worked for me, for the simple reason it's the lyrics, not the music. I listen to anyone speaking truth, (the truth I believe, of course), and that gives me a wide disjoint range of music, but they are all singing about political social truths. Marvin Gaye, Public Enemy, Rage Against The Machine, Beyonce, The Stranglers, The Jam, Psychic TV... It's the lyrics, and now today, we finally have t…
That's a very good point, I also love discovering with lyrics. What I tried to do is to find some connections between the image and music, maybe some connection we as humans cannot see right away.
Re: The lie of music discovery algorithms
#77Pandora, Pandora, Pandora. No other service for me worked to reveal new songs and artists I did not know about that nailed my taste. But Pandora relies on manual tagging by music experts. Fantastic, but probably not very scalable.
Re: The lie of music discovery algorithms
#78In the age of internet, engagement optimization and recommendation algorithms create a new way that we are affected by the behaviour of others. That annoying dark pattern on a piece of software you use? Because there are people who fall to it, clicking on an ad or "engaging" more. That stupid show that keeps being recommended to you? Because a lot of people just sit on the couch, watching something on the list that d…
I'm not sure how the Spotify recommendation algorithm works at all, but for some reason I imagined them doing fancier things than looking at my liked songs and finding similar ones. I would've thought they'd build a profile of you, and then find similar user profiles and show you songs those folks liked that you hadn't found yet. That's gotta be how they do it, right? I'm probably wrong.
Nowadays, they have a quite busy research department so I would imagine that recommendation is quite fancy indeed: https://research.atspotify.com
Re: The lie of music discovery algorithms
#79Pandora, Pandora, Pandora. No other service for me worked to reveal new songs and artists I did not know about that nailed my taste. But Pandora relies on manual tagging by music experts. Fantastic, but probably not very scalable.
However, even in the various artist stations, they do play artists "similar to" as well. Which is how I started listening to stuff like Murder By Death, Eilen Jewell, Bakar, Black Pumas, and others.
Re: The lie of music discovery algorithms
#80No music discovery algorithm has satisfied me. All data-driven approaches make predictions based on historical data. Personally I enjoy being exposed to entirely new genres and sounds I've never heard before, instead of variations on genres I've listened to a lot. My solution: listening to NTS, an eclectic online radio station, where diverse artists create playlists.