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Re: Missing Henry VIII portrait found after random X post

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Post by iamacyborg » Wed, Jul 31, 2024, 6:18 AM UTC

xeromal wrote: post #56

qingcharles wrote: post #49

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It's patriotic to have a picture of your royals in your home. You'd find pictures of The Royal Family in British homes, not so much now, but certainly photos of say Diana were fairly common in the 80s.

That makes sense. I don't think it's really popular here in the United States to have a president on your wall but I have seen pictures of them in restaurants especially if they frequented the establishment. It makes me curious about this specific example if the painter copied another painting of the king or he managed to somehow get time with the king in order to know what he looks like for the commission.

You guys fly flags everywhere instead.

Re: Missing Henry VIII portrait found after random X post

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Post by rowanG077 » Wed, Jul 31, 2024, 6:45 AM UTC

LudwigNagasena wrote: post #45

VikingCoder wrote: post #24

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Yeah, I worked with radiologists... What they can see in x-ray, CT, MR, PET, ultrasound... it's mind-boggling.

The most mind-blowing thing is just how much those skills rely on tacit knowledge and subconscious pattern recognition. There is really a lesson to be learned here in our age when data-based everything is en vogue. Our decision-making shouldn’t be data-driven, it should be data-informed.

I disagree. Hasn't it been shown that AI outperform radiologists on recognizing diseases from images?

Re: Missing Henry VIII portrait found after random X post

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Post by Ekaros » Wed, Jul 31, 2024, 6:50 AM UTC

WD-42 wrote: post #63

xeromal wrote: post #56

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That makes sense. I don't think it's really popular here in the United States to have a president on your wall but I have seen pictures of them in restaurants especially if they frequented the establishment. It makes me curious about this specific example if the painter copied another painting of the king or he managed to somehow get time with the king in order to know what he looks like for the commission.

The British never really shed their love for royalty. Just one of the things us yanks like to “take the piss” from then on. Seems silly to us.

They are celebrities in sense, with at least publicly higher standards("presentable")...

Re: Missing Henry VIII portrait found after random X post

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Post by rob74 » Wed, Jul 31, 2024, 6:51 AM UTC

simlevesque wrote: post #5

bobwolf wrote: post #4

Apparently was part of a set of 22 portraits commissioned in the 1590s by tapestry maker Ralph Sheldon and not the only one missing. According to https://adamfineart.wordpress.com/2024/07/04/ralph-sheldons-... The 1781 sale at Christie’s of the Weston portraits show that the group included portraits of Henry IV, Henry V, Edward IV, Richard III, Henry VII, Queen Elizabeth, Charles V, Prince Arthur, Henry VIII, Francis…

> Apparently was part of a set of 22 portraits commissioned in the 1590s by tapestry maker Ralph Sheldon and not the only one missing. Yes, that's what the article says.

The article however doesn't mention that the paintings were auctioned off in 1781 (just "sold at auction"), so thanks for that info!

Re: Missing Henry VIII portrait found after random X post

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Post by rob74 » Wed, Jul 31, 2024, 6:58 AM UTC

lawlessone wrote: post #22

arrowsmith wrote: post #17

Reminds me of the "lost" painting that was rediscovered via the movie Stuart Little : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_Little_(film)#Lost_pain...

I was thinking Vigo from Ghostbusters.

Actually, that (as I just discovered myself) wasn't a painting at all, it was a photo of the actual actor posed and lit to look like a painting:

https://triviahappy.com/articles/what-happened-to-the-vigo-t...

Re: Missing Henry VIII portrait found after random X post

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Post by rob74 » Wed, Jul 31, 2024, 7:06 AM UTC

arrowsmith wrote: post #69

qingcharles wrote: post #48

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That's wild. Also wild that the set dresser paid $500 from the film's budget for a random piece of non-key set dressing like this.

Makes me wonder what either priceless lost artefacts are hiding in plain sight somewhere.

One is definitely the Salvator Mundi painting which (at least according to most experts) is a lost Leonardo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvator_Mundi_(Leonardo)#Hist... - it was considered a copy of the lost original for most of its existence because at some point it had been very badly "restored".

Re: Missing Henry VIII portrait found after random X post

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Post by iancmceachern » Wed, Jul 31, 2024, 7:21 AM UTC

m463 wrote: post #44

qingcharles wrote: post #14

When you're an expert at something and you spend all your days looking at these things, you can pick out remarkable details from nothing. Any regular person looking at the original photo (below) would have seen nothing! https://x.com/Warkslieutenant/status/1808884139585610231/pho... (it's the picture with the curved frame on the left)

my nephew is good at identifying teslas. "if the door handles are straight - S, together - X, hockey sticks - 3 or Y. No handles? cybertruck" :)

In all fairness I used to be like that about late 80s and early 90s Honda civics

Re: Missing Henry VIII portrait found after random X post

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Jul 31, 2024, 7:27 AM UTC

Flop7331 wrote: post #42

qingcharles wrote: post #14

When you're an expert at something and you spend all your days looking at these things, you can pick out remarkable details from nothing. Any regular person looking at the original photo (below) would have seen nothing! https://x.com/Warkslieutenant/status/1808884139585610231/pho... (it's the picture with the curved frame on the left)

An article from Smithsonian shows that there's a drawing showing what the gallery had looked like. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/art-historian-disc... So somewhere in his brain he must have had "missing rounded-top portraits of 16th century VIPs, including one of Henry VIII posed kind of like this" filed away.

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Re: Missing Henry VIII portrait found after random X post

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Post by krisoft » Wed, Jul 31, 2024, 7:33 AM UTC

xeromal wrote: post #56

qingcharles wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's patriotic to have a picture of your royals in your home. You'd find pictures of The Royal Family in British homes, not so much now, but certainly photos of say Diana were fairly common in the 80s.

That makes sense. I don't think it's really popular here in the United States to have a president on your wall but I have seen pictures of them in restaurants especially if they frequented the establishment. It makes me curious about this specific example if the painter copied another painting of the king or he managed to somehow get time with the king in order to know what he looks like for the commission.

> or he managed to somehow get time with the king in order to know what he looks like for the commission.

That is unlikely for all kind of reasons. Chiefly among them that when the painting was painted the King was long dead.

The painting is dated to around 1590 while Henry VIII died in 1547.

Re: Missing Henry VIII portrait found after random X post

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Post by Rebelgecko » Wed, Jul 31, 2024, 7:43 AM UTC

What is the Warwickshire Lieutenancy? My understanding is it's some sort of royally appointed representative at the county level, but I'm not sure if it's a ceremonial role?