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Re: Hello Opera 12

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Post by JohannL »

ishansharma wrote: post #46

Opera is still not getting some basic features right and that is costing them users. I remember asking for a feature in forums in days of Opera 11.00. The feature was something that every browser has: "Remembering contents of a text field." For example, when I enter my email address once in a website and then come back another day and write first letter of my email id, it is displayed in a dropdown. But Opera outrigh…

Opera has an inbuilt IMAP client... which I admittedly never use, but between that and Thunderbird, why would you even want to use webmail? Of course it should still work, even though it's silly, but you also "should" not even notice that it doesn't, is what I'm saying. Certainly if you imply your time is so precious, heh.

And what is wrong with F11?

Re: Hello Opera 12

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Post by JohannL »

morsch wrote: post #50
Tomis02 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really. I've told countless people about how Opera really is the best browser, by far, and how people using Chrome and Firefox are stuck in the stone-age of Internet Explorer 6. I'm getting tired to repeat it. Screw it, I'll do a quick run. Depending on how good your computer is, Chrome will buckle (freeze your computer, in my case) sooner or later after you keep increasing the number of tabs, due to the one proc…

Apparently my Firefox looks very similar to your Opera, everything from left-handed tab bar with groups and plugins on demand to scrolling through tabs with RMB+mouse wheel. I'm literally using all of the features you mention. I think you can set up Chrome in mostly the same way. Of course you need to use extensions while Opera does it all out of the box. I prefer being able to pick-and-choose features and I apprecia…

Can Chrome display your bookmarks at the side in "split view", with bookmark folders and bookmark folder contents in their own pane? Really? Thought so...

> "I prefer being able to pick-and-choose features and I appreciate the rich playground for ideas of the Firefox extension ecosystem."

Well sure, and Opera has extensions, too. It just does some things out of the box that you can't even do with extensions for other browsers, OR for which you have to pay the prices of longer startup and constantly checking for extension updates before starting up.

FF (and Opera, and all browser) extensions are great; as long as you don't have many dozens of them. Then you really really want those features done in core code, not in Javascript and what have you.

Re: Hello Opera 12

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Post by simonmales »

No one has mentioned that Opera 12 is the first GA browser (I believe) to support WebRTC. Basically you don't need to flash anymore to access devices such as webcams and microphones.

I built a really simple site to see how this all works. It will fall back to flash if you don't have WebRTC support which includes Google Chrome Canary and now Opera 12.

http://gotcaption.com/p/39

Re: Hello Opera 12

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Post by ishansharma »

JohannL wrote: post #71
ishansharma wrote: post #46

Opera is still not getting some basic features right and that is costing them users. I remember asking for a feature in forums in days of Opera 11.00. The feature was something that every browser has: "Remembering contents of a text field." For example, when I enter my email address once in a website and then come back another day and write first letter of my email id, it is displayed in a dropdown. But Opera outrigh…

Opera has an inbuilt IMAP client... which I admittedly never use, but between that and Thunderbird, why would you even want to use webmail? Of course it should still work, even though it's silly, but you also "should" not even notice that it doesn't, is what I'm saying. Certainly if you imply your time is so precious, heh. And what is wrong with F11?

Yes, the mail client is great. I have used that. Problem is more with my college where IMAP, POP ports are closed. So, I can access mail only via web.

And GMail interface has many other features that I prefer.

Re: Hello Opera 12

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Post by colanderman »

antihero wrote: post #32
cmelbye wrote: post #3

I don't know why I would ever switch from Chrome or Safari to Opera. On a Mac, Opera still has text rendering issues ( http://imgur.com/a/9bK1j ), scrolling stutters, and there's a noticeable difference in page load speed (Opera is much slower than Chrome, at least on my computer).

Text rendering looks horrific here on Linux, too!

Looks beautiful here on Linux. Just make sure to pick good fonts (Sans, Sans Serif, and Sans Mono are solid choices) and that qtconfig-qt4 looks OK.

Re: Hello Opera 12

#77

Post by ishansharma »

JohannL wrote: post #71
ishansharma wrote: post #46

Opera is still not getting some basic features right and that is costing them users. I remember asking for a feature in forums in days of Opera 11.00. The feature was something that every browser has: "Remembering contents of a text field." For example, when I enter my email address once in a website and then come back another day and write first letter of my email id, it is displayed in a dropdown. But Opera outrigh…

Opera has an inbuilt IMAP client... which I admittedly never use, but between that and Thunderbird, why would you even want to use webmail? Of course it should still work, even though it's silly, but you also "should" not even notice that it doesn't, is what I'm saying. Certainly if you imply your time is so precious, heh. And what is wrong with F11?

F11: As far as I know, there's no way to make address/tab bar visible in full screen mode.

I prefer the way Safari does it. When I take cursor to top, address and tab bar are shown!

Re: Hello Opera 12

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Post by ishansharma »

MatthewPhillips wrote: post #66
ishansharma wrote: post #46

Opera is still not getting some basic features right and that is costing them users. I remember asking for a feature in forums in days of Opera 11.00. The feature was something that every browser has: "Remembering contents of a text field." For example, when I enter my email address once in a website and then come back another day and write first letter of my email id, it is displayed in a dropdown. But Opera outrigh…

This very blog post announces drag and drop support.

That is HTML5 drag and drop. I read it, got excited, installed Opera, found GMail drag and drop was not working, got unexcited, switched to Chrome!

Re: Hello Opera 12

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Post by ishansharma »

hoppipolla wrote: post #60
ishansharma wrote: post #46

Opera is still not getting some basic features right and that is costing them users. I remember asking for a feature in forums in days of Opera 11.00. The feature was something that every browser has: "Remembering contents of a text field." For example, when I enter my email address once in a website and then come back another day and write first letter of my email id, it is displayed in a dropdown. But Opera outrigh…

FWIW we have the "wand" feature which will fill in, and submit, a form for you with previously used values (it's the key icon on the toolbar or ctrl+enter). I know this is not quite the same implementation that other browsers have.

Yes, I have tried that. It is fine but I like the Chrome/FF implementation.

Re: Hello Opera 12

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Post by ishansharma »

Tomis02 wrote: post #53
ishansharma wrote: post #46

Opera is still not getting some basic features right and that is costing them users. I remember asking for a feature in forums in days of Opera 11.00. The feature was something that every browser has: "Remembering contents of a text field." For example, when I enter my email address once in a website and then come back another day and write first letter of my email id, it is displayed in a dropdown. But Opera outrigh…

https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/autocomplete/

Thanks for the link. Had forgotten about it!
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