Why many studies wrongly claim it's healthy to drink a little alcohol

Post by 000ooo000 » Sun, Jul 28, 2024, 2:27 PM UTC

000ooo000 wrote: post #65

davidhbolton wrote: post #42

This NS piece is complete misinformation. This below is by a writer who has been writing about this sort of thing for years. "Tim Stockwell has been up to his old tricks. In a study that was widely publicised this week despite being published in January, he claims - yet again - that moderate drinking does not confer health benefits. The study is largely a rehash of his meta-analysis from last year (which I wrote abou…

>In his comments to the Guardian he more or less admits that he is only doing this because the benefits of alcohol consumption are inconvenient to people like him who want to regulate booze like tobacco... >>“The idea [alcohol has benefits] has impacted national drinking guidelines, estimates of alcohol’s burden of disease worldwide and has been an impediment to effective policymaking on alcohol and public health,” h…

Post by throwuxiytayq » Sun, Jul 28, 2024, 2:45 PM UTC

greentxt wrote: post #57

pfdietz wrote: post #36

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Tobacco is estimated to cause more deaths, at least globally: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/substances-risk-factor-vs...

But probably has greater benefits too.

Post by psd1 » Sun, Jul 28, 2024, 2:58 PM UTC

FredPret wrote: post #45

goda90 wrote: post #37

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I hope someday we could develop computers that can do a molecularly accurate simulation of the human body. Then we could try all the inputs we can imagine, with a bunch of different sets of genes, and figure out exactly what's good or not.

True - but then the simulation will have human rights

Post by fuzzfactor » Sun, Jul 28, 2024, 3:08 PM UTC

SuperNinKenDo wrote: post #67

Given the immense benefits that some amount of social drinking can confer on an individual, this really doesn't pass the pub test. Reading the article increases the impression further. If drinking less than 11 times a year is not good enough to meet the author's bar, then whatever absolutely miniscule population of people who've literally never had a drink in their entire life there is are going to be subject to so m…

Post by yaur » Sun, Jul 28, 2024, 3:21 PM UTC

parpfish wrote: post #23

_heimdall wrote: post #9

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In your experience, is the alcohol required to enjoy the night out? I've personally had nights out with and without alcohol that were just as much fun. I'm also very much a homebody though, so I'm not a great sample to really say either way.

It’s not required, but so much of socializing and the existence of various “third places” hinges on alcohol that the choice is “do something social centered on drinking” or “do nothing”. You can’t expect people to single handedly overturn the social systems that have intertwined alcohol and socialization (especially for men)