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Re: Stripe acquires Lemon Squeezy

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We will definitely keep it.

Will the MOR feature be merged into regular Stripe, or will they remain separate?

Also wondering this. I was planning on making the jump to LS soon but if Stripe will be offering MoR services then I'd rather stay within Stripe's stack.

I suspect (hope) Stripe Tax will soon offer a MoR service. I imagine this acquisition is mostly for their tax expertise & perhaps internal tools that do all the hard work behind the scenes.

Re: Stripe acquires Lemon Squeezy

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Devil's advocate: more acquisitions creates more incentive to launch a start-up. More startups create more competition.

It's not a simple "acquisitions are good" or "acquisitions are bad" discussion. There is an ideal amount of M&A activity in an economy which is more than "no startup ever gets acquired" and less than "every startup is bought out by big tech". In recent years we have been closer to the first extreme, and very few startups have had exits of any kind.

Arguing good or bad on a single data point is reductive. I'm raising awareness that there is a counter argument for assuming excessive M&As is "bad."

Re: Stripe acquires Lemon Squeezy

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Merchant of Record is a cool feature to have-- Stripe Tax works well but the pricing structure is horrible. Paying a flat fee for dedicated tax handling would be considerably better! Now if only we could somehow get MoR for marketplaces...

We have introduced flat fee pricing recently: https://stripe.com/tax/pricing

MoR for marketplaces basically means merchant of record for Stripe Connect and you, as the platform, take the tax liability via the MoR functionality automatically for your sellers (connected accounts), right?

Mind sending me an email at kevinpeters at stripe dot com? Would love to hear about the use case.

Re: Stripe acquires Lemon Squeezy

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Devil's advocate: more acquisitions creates more incentive to launch a start-up. More startups create more competition.

A startup made for the purpose of acquisition was never a competitor. If you are willing to sell to the big player in your industry you are not competing, you are an opportunist. A startup that wants to compete will run very differently from a startup that wants to be purchased. A big whale company that gobbles up some of the fifty startups that only have like 2% of the market total is not a competitive market at all…

>A startup made for the purpose of acquisition was never a competitor

You cannot get acquired unless you represent a percentage of market share, have IP which will lead to greater market share, and/or have employees who can expand market share for a product.

>A big whale company that gobbles up some of the fifty startups that only have like 2% of the market total is not a competitive market at all.

A big whale company performing that many M&As to little startups is essentially fueling future competitors. If I was an investor I would see that market as valuable for the unicorn breakthrough possibility or at least an eventual acquisition exit event.

Re: Stripe acquires Lemon Squeezy

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Instead of calling Stripe directly, customers call Lemon Squeezy directly - it’s an abstraction layer around the Stripe API. What’s the barrier to entry for starting up a similar business?

I am working on Stripe Tax, but do not know Lemon Squeezy so well yet. But something Lemon Squeezy does different are the following: the KYC works different and is more restrictive. One of the differences to Stripe considering we still give you as a merchant the responsibility to be tax-compliant after all (you need to add tax registrations into stripe explicitly). Also think about maybe fraudulent cases, LS must be much more restrictive otherwise their payment provider is blocking them.

One thing which is weird about tax is physical presences in some cases. In some countries, you actually might need a representative to file your taxes. Plus you need to learn how to register in those countries and how to file taxes.

There are probably more things that you need to look up, but that’s what I remember.

Re: Stripe acquires Lemon Squeezy

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It’s scary how big stripe is becoming. Instead of competing just buy up other companies. Might be another company that will require regulatory intervention and break them up (same as when the govt broke up the railroads)
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